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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:22:15 -0700
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Actually, talking about "conceptual" versus
physical or social types is essential to
constructing a design for an ontology
implementation.  How to represent something that
is conceptual versus physical or social is a
tightly coupled design decision with
responsiveness, throughput, and resource
requirements.  That's from the engineering point
of view.      (01)

>From the validity point of view, I have suggested
that all concepts are recorded by subjective
person(s) and that subjectivity remains in those
persons who did NOT record concepts.  The validity
of a conceptualization is proven by having other
users, both actual and prospective, tell you that
they like the results or they do not like them.
Since I claim that ontologies are recorded by
subjective agents (persons, whatever ..), it is
unlikely that other persons of different
experiences will be fully comfortable with most
conceptualizations.  No matter how theoretically
pure and historic a conceptualization is, it also
has to be useful to the audience for which it is
intended.  It has to work and work properly for
the users in order to be a valid
conceptualization.      (02)

JMHO,
-Rich    (03)

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] metaphysis, semantics
and the research program of ontologies    (05)

Folks,    (06)

In philosophy, metaphysics and ontology are often
considered synonymous.    (07)

Much of this discussion deals with issues that are
on the borderline
of logic and ontology.  Questions about contexts
are among them.    (08)

Talk about whether or not something is
"conceptual" is not helpful.
It is much more appropriate to cite examples from
the literature
about how various researchers and implementers
have used logic
and computational logics to represent those
topics.    (09)

John    (010)

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