Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics

[Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>]

Good idea but... I wont sign up for the moment....as I do quite the opposite
use SN to share with the world  the stuff I cannot share on the more rational discussion groups
random thoughs, observations, mainly music actually,  but also art at large,  which I consider as an extremely expressive language capable of conveying greater meanings than word alone.  

Occasionally use SN for my personal /professional propaganda campaigns, (thanks #tag)
but yes, as these things will be meshed up, our multiple personas will merge into one and
then two things can happen

a)  richer, more varied and spontaneous individual personalities will complement
the monotonized version of ourselves that we tend to project when we wear our 'uniforms' - and talk only about one subject for example on each list - 
b) we'll develop specifit SN strategies/avatars to target specific communication goals (professional, personal etc)

I ll work on the latter when I develop a sense of purpose

Pdm

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Great idea - I use Twitter almost entirely for semantics work, with the
odd random comment about other stuff.

Mike

Duane Nickull wrote:
> I created a page where we can list of twitter handles for those who
> participate in this forum, especially if they do Ontology related tweets.
>
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Twitterhandles.Txt
>
> Wondering if we should do similar things for blogs, facebook etc???
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Duane
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> On 10/9/09 6:57 AM, "Pavithra" <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>     I have used second life environment to attend seminars and
>     jobfairs and open houses & community fairs! It is very
>     affective... next best thing to attend in person, a real time
>     simulated virtual environment with avatars !
>     ( hindu and greek mythology in action..) ! One can also recorded
>     information, make it available at a later time.
>
>     Harvad developed Facebook! I have been using Facebook for more
>     than a year to connect with friends and family around the world in
>     real time manner. Also to follow some important people and attend
>     their seminars like Obama! One can email, chat, post information,
>     links, pictures and audio /vedios and live seminars in this
>     environement!
>
>     I found security a big problem. Many people who one may not know
>     may trace you and know all about your network and information that
>     you share! There is some level of security, but not that strong.
>     One has to be careful!
>
>     I use twitter to receive news and real time feeds from interesting
>     people and post funny tweets !
>     Information in twitter can be searched and traced based on the
>     words and specific information and feed to other databases,If you
>     choose a public environment. There is privacy option available.
>     One can aslo share picture & links, twitter provides a new short
>     link to the links you provide. But the tweets have to be less than
>     140 charectors! It does serve the purpose of what it says answer
>     to " what are you doing" question!
>     But very helpful to provide realtime short iformation or links to
>     large group of people!
>
>     Among all the other tools, I found these two most used and useful!
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>     All these tools adds to the concept of web 2.0/3.0, semantic web !
>     Makes real time learning, information sharing very easy and user
>     friendly!
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>     But I am not sure how many of them use OWL and RDF and other
>     semantic web languages to implement! I have to research on that. I
>     know google has not used it in the past, and recently been looking
>     into it.
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>     Regards,
>     Pavithra
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>     --- On *Fri, 10/9/09, Doug McDavid /<dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
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>         From: Doug McDavid <dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>
>         Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics
>         To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 8:38 AM
>
>         Mike, that is a good question, and actually motivated me to
>         look for shelter, in case my avatar remained visible in a
>         dormant state. In Second Life, actually, the avatar disappears
>         when you log off. It wouldn't have to be that way -- a design
>         choice.
>
>         I understand about the disinterested part. I was completely
>         non-interested until my job caused me to investigate the
>         virtual world for collaboration. Since then I have attended
>         innumerable meetings and conferences in virtual worlds (not
>         all of them Second Life), as well as created new working
>         relationships where the virtual world is the main avenue of
>         communication. Without a meaningful reason to use the
>         technology it has limited benefits, but if there's something
>         useful to do, it can be quite compelling.
>
>         On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Mike Bennett
>         <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         <http://us.mc383.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         > wrote:
>
>             I think I'm still lying in a field somewhere in Second
>             Life. Do they
>             have people who come round and tidy away the bodies of the
>             disinterested?
>
>             Mike
>
>             Doug McDavid wrote:
>             > And just wait til you add virtual worlds (like Second
>             Life) to the
>             > mix. This goes from social to hyper-social!
>             >
>             > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Paola Di Maio
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>             >> wrote:
>             >
>             > . It is
>             >
>             > interesting to notice how the semantics of FB features
>             differs
>             > from the
>             > intended semantics, as people use it in more and
>             different ways.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Interesting point Mike. I have avoided fb and twitter for
>             a while,
>             > until one day some marginal utility came about on one
>             occasion, then
>             > all these people came up that I had met one time or
>             other, and
>             > ended up signing up to all of them (still havent signed up to
>             > tripit but guess will do sometimes)
>             >
>             > I use them to keep in touch with everyone with minumal
>             effort, and
>             > today I feel that they are a great life support, especially
>             > considering that we dont have the resources to
>             > nurture every single personal relationship we would like
>             to. I
>             > have reconneccted with old acquaintances, and made new
>             ones, very
>             > important: I exchange very valuable knowledge on the fly,
>             with
>             > minimal commitment
>             >
>             > (I dont distinguish between personal and professional
>             sphere that
>             > much anymore, I don mind my work contact seeing my
>             holiday snaps,
>             > but some still do)
>             >
>             > Your mention about the semantics is really interesting.
>             >
>             > One day i was thinking loud on my twitter about 'its okay
>             to be
>             > dysfunctional sometimes' and within hours I was followed
>             by some
>             > improbable connections, whose
>             > only semantic relation to my profile was that we both had
>             the word
>             > dysfunctional' somewhere in our respective web resources
>             . that
>             > was really fun thing to watch
>             > I later received an invitation to the 'mental health
>             festival in
>             > my neighborhood, but not sure if that mention or
>             something else I
>             > said was the connection.
>             >
>             > it happens all the time, that I use a word in a tweet
>             (echoed in
>             > my fb) and multiple connections appear that associate
>             that word in
>             > a different context, and of course
>             > I do get some of spammers who target my social networks
>             profile
>             > mainly to promote their stuff, rather than to cultivate a
>             social
>             > relation of sort
>             >
>             > It is also distracting to have all these inputs, so that
>             > periodically I have to switch everything off and try to
>             concenrate
>             > on the one thing I am trying to do
>             > but not more distracting than having 100 television channels,
>             > with the difference that these social media are highly
>             interactive
>             > - its not just some broadcaster shoving stuff down my
>             channel, its
>             > total interaction all around, exchanging clips, links, music,
>             > news, etc
>             >
>             > It adds enourmously to the infoglut, but overall for me the
>             > balance is positive, I gain massive insights from a digital
>             > ecosystem point of view
>             >
>             > I signed up to the fb, wheres the linkedin?
>             >
>             > cheers
>             >
>             > PDM
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Mike
>             >
>             > Peter Yim wrote:
>             > > Thank you, Doug. Point well taken.
>             > >
>             > > Charley and I were discussing this too, and he specifically
>             > intended
>             > > for this (Facebook presence) to be more of a "funnel" to
>             > provide us
>             > > exposure, rather than another "workspace" or "work
>             > environment" that
>             > > we want to delve into. I think he has a point. If exposure
>             > is our
>             > > principal purpose, we could (should?) even try doing on
>             more
>             > just just
>             > > Facebook.
>             > >
>             > > I should also take the opportunity to recognize the fact
>             > that back in
>             > > April 2007, Ed Dodds did point out to me (offline) that
>             > there were
>             > > already over 150 Ontolog members on LinkedIn (I have to
>             > admire his
>             > > data-mining skills!) and suggested we take advantage of the
>             > "Linkedin
>             > > for Groups" feature that creates some sort of affinity
>             group
>             > among
>             > > members of this community. ... Regretfully, I did not take
>             > him on
>             > > then, nor put it up for discussion.
>             > >
>             > > ... I guess, this is as good a time as any.
>             > >
>             > > Thought, comments, ... anyone?
>             > >
>             > > Best regards. =ppy
>             > > --
>             > >
>             > >
>             > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Doug McDavid
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>             >> wrote:
>             > >
>             > >> I made the point to Peter that LinkedIn might be a more
>             > professional place to host this
>             > >> than Facebook. This is from a perspective of enthusiasm
>             > for setting up this kind of
>             > >> network, and to derive maximum benefit from the good
>             > efforts going on.
>             > >>
>             > >> Best regards,
>             > >>
>             > >> Doug McDavid
>             > >> --
>             > >>
>             > >> Doug McDavid
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>             >
>             > >> 916-549-4600
>             > >>
>             > >
>             > >
>             > >
>             > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, White, Charles P (172G)
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>             >> wrote:
>             > >>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Do you have a Facebook account? If not, that’s ok, but
>             > there are many millions of
>             > >>> people joining Facebook from around the world. Peter
>             and I
>             > would like to announce
>             > >>> the official Ontolog-Facebook Group (Ontolog-FB). The
>             > purpose of this group is
>             > >>> simply to make first contact with people searching for
>             > Ontology or Semantic web
>             > >>> keywords in Facebook. Although there is a discussion
>             > board capability in the
>             > >>> group, the main venue for discussion shall continue to be
>             > [ontolog-forum] and
>             > >>> other project mailing lists and our other community
>             forums
>             > >>>
>             > >>> If you have a facebook account, please feel free to join
>             > the Ontolog group.
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Link:
>             > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>             <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>
>             > <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>             <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> My Account: http://www.facebook.com/Jet.Burns?ref=name
>             > >>>
>             > >>> By the way: The photograph is from my vacation to
>             Alaska's
>             > Hubbard Glacier,
>             > >>> and I chose this photo because of the relationships I see
>             > in the ice, color,
>             > >>> movement, rock, sky and sea. Not only that, but I own the
>             > image so that
>             > >>> takes care of the legal stuff. :)
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> V/r Charles
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Charles P. White, Enterprise Systems Analyst
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>             > >>> Office of the Chief Information Officer Group 172G
>             > >>>
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>             > >>> JPL KM Assignment: NASA Emergency Services
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Second Life: Jet Burns
>             > >>> Twitter: Jet_Burns
>             > >>> Facebook: Jet Burns
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