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Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics

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From: Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:12:10 +0100
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A social networking thing that I believe uses RDF is the Twine social 
network. There is not so much activity on that though.    (01)

Sooner or later someone will aggregate all of these using a common model 
of the underlying semantics (presumably in SIOC).    (02)

Mike    (03)

Pavithra wrote:
>  
> I have used second life environment to attend seminars and jobfairs 
> and open houses & community fairs!  It is very affective... next best 
> thing to attend in person, a real time simulated virtual environment 
> with avatars !
> ( hindu and greek mythology in action..) !  One can also  recorded 
> information, make it available at a later time.
>  
> Harvad developed Facebook! I have been using Facebook for more than a 
> year to connect with friends and family around the world in  real time 
> manner.  Also to follow some important people and attend their 
> seminars like Obama! One can email,  chat, post information, links, 
>  pictures and audio /vedios  and live seminars in this environement! 
>  
> I found security a big problem.  Many people who one may not know may 
> trace you and know all about your network and information that you  
> share! There is some level of security, but not that strong.  One has 
> to be careful! 
>  
> I use twitter to receive news and  real time feeds from interesting 
> people and post funny tweets !
> Information in twitter can be searched and traced based on the words 
> and specific information and  feed to other databases,If you choose a 
> public environment.   There is privacy option available.  One can aslo 
> share picture & links, twitter provides a new short link to the links 
> you provide.  But the tweets have to be less than 140 charectors!  It 
> does serve the purpose of what it says answer to  " what are you 
> doing" question!  
> But very helpful to provide realtime short iformation or links to 
> large group of people!
>  
> Among all the other tools, I found these two most used and useful!
>  
> All these tools adds to the concept of web 2.0/3.0, semantic web !  
> Makes real time learning, information sharing very easy and user 
> friendly!
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> But I am not sure how many of them use OWL and RDF and other semantic 
> web languages to implement!  I have to research on that.   I know 
> google has not used it in the past, and recently been looking into it.
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> --- On *Fri, 10/9/09, Doug McDavid /<dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
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>     From: Doug McDavid <dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>
>     Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics
>     To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 8:38 AM
>
>     Mike, that is a good question, and actually motivated me to look
>     for shelter, in case my avatar remained visible in a dormant
>     state.  In Second Life, actually, the avatar disappears when you
>     log off.  It wouldn't have to be that way -- a design choice.
>
>     I understand about the disinterested part.  I was completely
>     non-interested until my job caused me to investigate the virtual
>     world for collaboration.  Since then I have attended innumerable
>     meetings and conferences in virtual worlds (not all of them Second
>     Life), as well as created new working relationships where the
>     virtual world is the main avenue of communication.  Without a
>     meaningful reason to use the technology it has limited benefits,
>     but if there's something useful to do, it can be quite compelling.
>
>     On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Mike Bennett
>     <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <http://us.mc383.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     wrote:
>
>         I think I'm still lying in a field somewhere in Second Life.
>         Do they
>         have people who come round and tidy away the bodies of the
>         disinterested?
>
>         Mike
>
>         Doug McDavid wrote:
>         > And just wait til you add virtual worlds (like Second Life)
>         to the
>         > mix.  This goes from social to hyper-social!
>         >
>         > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Paola Di Maio
>         <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
>         <http://us.mc383.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>
>         > <mailto:paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
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>         wrote:
>         >
>         >     . It is
>         >
>         >         interesting to notice how the semantics of FB
>         features differs
>         >         from the
>         >         intended semantics, as people use it in more and
>         different ways.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >     Interesting point Mike. I have avoided fb and twitter
>         for a while,
>         >     until one day some marginal utility came about on one
>         occasion, then
>         >     all these people came up that I had met one time or
>         other, and
>         >     ended up signing up to all of them (still havent signed
>         up to
>         >     tripit but guess will do sometimes)
>         >
>         >     I use them to keep in touch with everyone with minumal
>         effort, and
>         >     today I feel that they are a great life support, especially
>         >     considering that we dont have the resources to
>         >     nurture every single personal relationship we would like
>         to. I
>         >     have reconneccted with old acquaintances, and made new
>         ones, very
>         >     important: I exchange very valuable knowledge on the
>         fly, with
>         >     minimal commitment
>         >
>         >     (I dont distinguish between personal and professional
>         sphere that
>         >     much anymore, I don mind my work contact seeing my
>         holiday snaps,
>         >     but some still do)
>         >
>         >     Your mention about the semantics is really interesting.
>         >
>         >     One day i was thinking loud on my twitter about  'its
>         okay to be
>         >     dysfunctional sometimes' and within hours I was followed
>         by some
>         >     improbable connections, whose
>         >     only semantic relation to my profile was that we both
>         had the word
>         >     dysfunctional' somewhere in our respective web resources
>         . that
>         >     was really fun thing to watch
>         >     I later received an invitation to the 'mental health
>         festival in
>         >     my neighborhood, but not sure if that mention or
>         something else I
>         >     said was the connection.
>         >
>         >     it happens all the time, that I use a word in a tweet
>         (echoed in
>         >     my fb) and multiple connections appear that associate
>         that word in
>         >     a different context, and of course
>         >     I do get some of spammers who target my social networks
>         profile
>         >     mainly to promote their stuff, rather than to cultivate
>         a social
>         >     relation of sort
>         >
>         >     It is also  distracting to have all these inputs, so that
>         >     periodically I have to switch everything off and try to
>         concenrate
>         >     on the one thing I am trying to do
>         >      but not more distracting than having 100 television
>         channels,
>         >     with the difference that these social media are highly
>         interactive
>         >     - its not just some broadcaster shoving stuff down my
>         channel, its
>         >     total interaction all around, exchanging clips, links,
>         music,
>         >     news, etc
>         >
>         >     It adds enourmously to the infoglut, but overall for me the
>         >     balance is positive, I gain massive insights from a digital
>         >     ecosystem point of view
>         >
>         >     I signed up to the fb, wheres the linkedin?
>         >
>         >     cheers
>         >
>         >     PDM
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         Mike
>         >
>         >         Peter Yim wrote:
>         >         > Thank you, Doug. Point well taken.
>         >         >
>         >         > Charley and I were discussing this too, and he
>         specifically
>         >         intended
>         >         > for this (Facebook presence) to be more of a
>         "funnel" to
>         >         provide us
>         >         > exposure, rather than another "workspace" or "work
>         >         environment" that
>         >         > we want to delve into. I think he has a point. If
>         exposure
>         >         is our
>         >         > principal purpose, we could (should?) even try
>         doing on more
>         >         just just
>         >         > Facebook.
>         >         >
>         >         > I should also take the opportunity to recognize
>         the fact
>         >         that back in
>         >         > April 2007, Ed Dodds did point out to me (offline)
>         that
>         >         there were
>         >         > already over 150 Ontolog members on LinkedIn (I
>         have to
>         >         admire his
>         >         > data-mining skills!) and suggested we take
>         advantage of the
>         >         "Linkedin
>         >         > for Groups" feature that creates some sort of
>         affinity group
>         >         among
>         >         > members of this community. ... Regretfully, I did
>         not take
>         >         him on
>         >         > then, nor put it up for discussion.
>         >         >
>         >         > ... I guess, this is as good a time as any.
>         >         >
>         >         > Thought, comments, ... anyone?
>         >         >
>         >         > Best regards.  =ppy
>         >         > --
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Doug McDavid
>         >         <dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx
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>         wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         >> I made the point to Peter that LinkedIn might be
>         a more
>         >         professional place to host this
>         >         >> than Facebook.  This is from a perspective of
>         enthusiasm
>         >         for setting up this kind of
>         >         >> network, and to derive maximum benefit from the good
>         >         efforts going on.
>         >         >>
>         >         >> Best regards,
>         >         >>
>         >         >> Doug McDavid
>         >         >> --
>         >         >>
>         >         >> Doug McDavid
>         >         >> dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx
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>         >         >> 916-549-4600
>         >         >>
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, White, Charles P
>         (172G)
>         >         <charles.p.white@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         
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>         wrote:
>         >         >>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> Do you have a Facebook account? If not, that’s
>         ok, but
>         >         there are many millions of
>         >         >>> people joining Facebook from around the world.
>         Peter and I
>         >         would like to announce
>         >         >>> the official Ontolog-Facebook Group
>         (Ontolog-FB). The
>         >         purpose of this group is
>         >         >>> simply to make first contact with people
>         searching for
>         >         Ontology or Semantic web
>         >         >>> keywords in Facebook.  Although there is a
>         discussion
>         >         board capability in the
>         >         >>> group, the main venue for discussion shall
>         continue to be
>         >         [ontolog-forum] and
>         >         >>> other project mailing lists and our other
>         community forums
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> If you have a facebook account, please feel free
>         to join
>         >         the Ontolog group.
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> Link:
>         >        
>          http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>         <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>
>         >        
>         <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>         <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> My Account:
>         http://www.facebook.com/Jet.Burns?ref=name
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> By the way: The photograph is from my vacation
>         to Alaska's
>         >         Hubbard Glacier,
>         >         >>> and I chose this photo because of the
>         relationships I see
>         >         in the ice, color,
>         >         >>> movement, rock, sky and sea. Not only that, but
>         I own the
>         >         image so that
>         >         >>> takes care of the legal stuff. :)
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> V/r Charles
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> Charles P. White, Enterprise Systems Analyst
>         >         >>> Virtual Worlds for Engineering and Science
>         >         >>> Office of the Chief Information Officer Group 172G
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> JPL Knowledge Management Team
>         >         >>> NASA Synthetic Environments Research Team (NISER)
>         >         >>> JPL KM Assignment: U.S. Air Force Space Missile
>         Command
>         >         (SMC/PI)
>         >         >>> JPL KM Assignment: U.S. Navy Mine Warfare Data Model
>         >         Working Group
>         >         >>> JPL KM Assignment: NASA Emergency Services
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> Second Life: Jet Burns
>         >         >>> Twitter: Jet_Burns
>         >         >>> Facebook: Jet Burns
>         >         >>> Email: Charles.P.White@xxxxxxxx
>         
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>         >         <mailto:Charles.P.White@xxxxxxxx
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>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>         >         >>> California Institute of Technology
>         >         >>> 4800 Oak Grove Drive
>         >         >>> Building 600-162a
>         >         >>> Pasadena, California 91109
>         >         >>>
>         >         >>> Cell: (818) 653-5692
>         >         >>> Office: (818) 453-2743
>         >         >>>
>         >         >
>         >         >
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