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Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics

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From: Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:02:48 +0100
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Great idea - I use Twitter almost entirely for semantics work, with the 
odd random comment about other stuff.    (01)

Mike    (02)

Duane Nickull wrote:
> I created a page where we can list of twitter handles for those who 
> participate in this forum, especially if they do Ontology related tweets.
>
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Twitterhandles.Txt
>
> Wondering if we should do similar things for blogs, facebook etc???
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Duane
>
>
> On 10/9/09 6:57 AM, "Pavithra" <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
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>     I have used second life environment to attend seminars and
>     jobfairs and open houses & community fairs! It is very
>     affective... next best thing to attend in person, a real time
>     simulated virtual environment with avatars !
>     ( hindu and greek mythology in action..) ! One can also recorded
>     information, make it available at a later time.
>
>     Harvad developed Facebook! I have been using Facebook for more
>     than a year to connect with friends and family around the world in
>     real time manner. Also to follow some important people and attend
>     their seminars like Obama! One can email, chat, post information,
>     links, pictures and audio /vedios and live seminars in this
>     environement!
>
>     I found security a big problem. Many people who one may not know
>     may trace you and know all about your network and information that
>     you share! There is some level of security, but not that strong.
>     One has to be careful!
>
>     I use twitter to receive news and real time feeds from interesting
>     people and post funny tweets !
>     Information in twitter can be searched and traced based on the
>     words and specific information and feed to other databases,If you
>     choose a public environment. There is privacy option available.
>     One can aslo share picture & links, twitter provides a new short
>     link to the links you provide. But the tweets have to be less than
>     140 charectors! It does serve the purpose of what it says answer
>     to " what are you doing" question!
>     But very helpful to provide realtime short iformation or links to
>     large group of people!
>
>     Among all the other tools, I found these two most used and useful!
>
>     All these tools adds to the concept of web 2.0/3.0, semantic web !
>     Makes real time learning, information sharing very easy and user
>     friendly!
>
>     But I am not sure how many of them use OWL and RDF and other
>     semantic web languages to implement! I have to research on that. I
>     know google has not used it in the past, and recently been looking
>     into it.
>
>     Regards,
>     Pavithra
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>     --- On *Fri, 10/9/09, Doug McDavid /<dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
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>         From: Doug McDavid <dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx>
>         Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] .social networks semantics
>         To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 8:38 AM
>
>         Mike, that is a good question, and actually motivated me to
>         look for shelter, in case my avatar remained visible in a
>         dormant state. In Second Life, actually, the avatar disappears
>         when you log off. It wouldn't have to be that way -- a design
>         choice.
>
>         I understand about the disinterested part. I was completely
>         non-interested until my job caused me to investigate the
>         virtual world for collaboration. Since then I have attended
>         innumerable meetings and conferences in virtual worlds (not
>         all of them Second Life), as well as created new working
>         relationships where the virtual world is the main avenue of
>         communication. Without a meaningful reason to use the
>         technology it has limited benefits, but if there's something
>         useful to do, it can be quite compelling.
>
>         On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Mike Bennett
>         <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         
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>         > wrote:
>
>             I think I'm still lying in a field somewhere in Second
>             Life. Do they
>             have people who come round and tidy away the bodies of the
>             disinterested?
>
>             Mike
>
>             Doug McDavid wrote:
>             > And just wait til you add virtual worlds (like Second
>             Life) to the
>             > mix. This goes from social to hyper-social!
>             >
>             > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Paola Di Maio
>             <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
>             
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>             >> wrote:
>             >
>             > . It is
>             >
>             > interesting to notice how the semantics of FB features
>             differs
>             > from the
>             > intended semantics, as people use it in more and
>             different ways.
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Interesting point Mike. I have avoided fb and twitter for
>             a while,
>             > until one day some marginal utility came about on one
>             occasion, then
>             > all these people came up that I had met one time or
>             other, and
>             > ended up signing up to all of them (still havent signed up to
>             > tripit but guess will do sometimes)
>             >
>             > I use them to keep in touch with everyone with minumal
>             effort, and
>             > today I feel that they are a great life support, especially
>             > considering that we dont have the resources to
>             > nurture every single personal relationship we would like
>             to. I
>             > have reconneccted with old acquaintances, and made new
>             ones, very
>             > important: I exchange very valuable knowledge on the fly,
>             with
>             > minimal commitment
>             >
>             > (I dont distinguish between personal and professional
>             sphere that
>             > much anymore, I don mind my work contact seeing my
>             holiday snaps,
>             > but some still do)
>             >
>             > Your mention about the semantics is really interesting.
>             >
>             > One day i was thinking loud on my twitter about 'its okay
>             to be
>             > dysfunctional sometimes' and within hours I was followed
>             by some
>             > improbable connections, whose
>             > only semantic relation to my profile was that we both had
>             the word
>             > dysfunctional' somewhere in our respective web resources
>             . that
>             > was really fun thing to watch
>             > I later received an invitation to the 'mental health
>             festival in
>             > my neighborhood, but not sure if that mention or
>             something else I
>             > said was the connection.
>             >
>             > it happens all the time, that I use a word in a tweet
>             (echoed in
>             > my fb) and multiple connections appear that associate
>             that word in
>             > a different context, and of course
>             > I do get some of spammers who target my social networks
>             profile
>             > mainly to promote their stuff, rather than to cultivate a
>             social
>             > relation of sort
>             >
>             > It is also distracting to have all these inputs, so that
>             > periodically I have to switch everything off and try to
>             concenrate
>             > on the one thing I am trying to do
>             > but not more distracting than having 100 television channels,
>             > with the difference that these social media are highly
>             interactive
>             > - its not just some broadcaster shoving stuff down my
>             channel, its
>             > total interaction all around, exchanging clips, links, music,
>             > news, etc
>             >
>             > It adds enourmously to the infoglut, but overall for me the
>             > balance is positive, I gain massive insights from a digital
>             > ecosystem point of view
>             >
>             > I signed up to the fb, wheres the linkedin?
>             >
>             > cheers
>             >
>             > PDM
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > Mike
>             >
>             > Peter Yim wrote:
>             > > Thank you, Doug. Point well taken.
>             > >
>             > > Charley and I were discussing this too, and he specifically
>             > intended
>             > > for this (Facebook presence) to be more of a "funnel" to
>             > provide us
>             > > exposure, rather than another "workspace" or "work
>             > environment" that
>             > > we want to delve into. I think he has a point. If exposure
>             > is our
>             > > principal purpose, we could (should?) even try doing on
>             more
>             > just just
>             > > Facebook.
>             > >
>             > > I should also take the opportunity to recognize the fact
>             > that back in
>             > > April 2007, Ed Dodds did point out to me (offline) that
>             > there were
>             > > already over 150 Ontolog members on LinkedIn (I have to
>             > admire his
>             > > data-mining skills!) and suggested we take advantage of the
>             > "Linkedin
>             > > for Groups" feature that creates some sort of affinity
>             group
>             > among
>             > > members of this community. ... Regretfully, I did not take
>             > him on
>             > > then, nor put it up for discussion.
>             > >
>             > > ... I guess, this is as good a time as any.
>             > >
>             > > Thought, comments, ... anyone?
>             > >
>             > > Best regards. =ppy
>             > > --
>             > >
>             > >
>             > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Doug McDavid
>             > <dougmcdavid@xxxxxxxxx
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>             >> wrote:
>             > >
>             > >> I made the point to Peter that LinkedIn might be a more
>             > professional place to host this
>             > >> than Facebook. This is from a perspective of enthusiasm
>             > for setting up this kind of
>             > >> network, and to derive maximum benefit from the good
>             > efforts going on.
>             > >>
>             > >> Best regards,
>             > >>
>             > >> Doug McDavid
>             > >> --
>             > >>
>             > >> Doug McDavid
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>             > >> 916-549-4600
>             > >>
>             > >
>             > >
>             > >
>             > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, White, Charles P (172G)
>             > <charles.p.white@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>             
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>             > <mailto:charles.p.white@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>             >> wrote:
>             > >>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Do you have a Facebook account? If not, that’s ok, but
>             > there are many millions of
>             > >>> people joining Facebook from around the world. Peter
>             and I
>             > would like to announce
>             > >>> the official Ontolog-Facebook Group (Ontolog-FB). The
>             > purpose of this group is
>             > >>> simply to make first contact with people searching for
>             > Ontology or Semantic web
>             > >>> keywords in Facebook. Although there is a discussion
>             > board capability in the
>             > >>> group, the main venue for discussion shall continue to be
>             > [ontolog-forum] and
>             > >>> other project mailing lists and our other community
>             forums
>             > >>>
>             > >>> If you have a facebook account, please feel free to join
>             > the Ontolog group.
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Link:
>             > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>             <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>
>             > <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf
>             <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=184463208664&ref=mf>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> My Account: http://www.facebook.com/Jet.Burns?ref=name
>             > >>>
>             > >>> By the way: The photograph is from my vacation to
>             Alaska's
>             > Hubbard Glacier,
>             > >>> and I chose this photo because of the relationships I see
>             > in the ice, color,
>             > >>> movement, rock, sky and sea. Not only that, but I own the
>             > image so that
>             > >>> takes care of the legal stuff. :)
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> V/r Charles
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Charles P. White, Enterprise Systems Analyst
>             > >>> Virtual Worlds for Engineering and Science
>             > >>> Office of the Chief Information Officer Group 172G
>             > >>>
>             > >>> JPL Knowledge Management Team
>             > >>> NASA Synthetic Environments Research Team (NISER)
>             > >>> JPL KM Assignment: U.S. Air Force Space Missile Command
>             > (SMC/PI)
>             > >>> JPL KM Assignment: U.S. Navy Mine Warfare Data Model
>             > Working Group
>             > >>> JPL KM Assignment: NASA Emergency Services
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Second Life: Jet Burns
>             > >>> Twitter: Jet_Burns
>             > >>> Facebook: Jet Burns
>             > >>> Email: Charles.P.White@xxxxxxxx
>             
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>             > <mailto:Charles.P.White@xxxxxxxx
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>             >
>             > >>>
>             > >>> NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>             > >>> California Institute of Technology
>             > >>> 4800 Oak Grove Drive
>             > >>> Building 600-162a
>             > >>> Pasadena, California 91109
>             > >>>
>             > >>> Cell: (818) 653-5692
>             > >>> Office: (818) 453-2743
>             > >>>
>             > >
>             > >
>             > 
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