A very, very bad analogy in fact. I have personally delivered a live
fetus (still attached to the umbilical cord for a short time) from an
expired mother, so how can you possibly say that a fetus is a "part" of
the mother? (01)
Cecil
Conklin, Don wrote:
> Bad analogy. A kidney has no capacity to be self sustaining hen removed from
>its owner.
>
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> Chris
>
> You're throwing emotional issues into the discussion.
> I'm only talking about the definition of a "part".
> The fetus is a part of the mother, in the same sense
> that a kidney is a part of the mother.
>
> Dick
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>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Richard H. McCullough wrote:
>>
>>> From the viewpoint of metaphysics/epistemology, a fetus is not a human
>>> being, it is a part of a human being (the mother).
>>>
>> Among philosophers, medical ethicists, etc, this is an entirely open and
>> controversial question.
>>
>>
>>> After birth, it is a human being (the newborn).
>>>
>> Are you proposing that we become human beings only after birth? Not
>> that I'm interested in arguing the point, but that proposal is obviously
>> false.
>>
>> -chris
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