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From: Cecil Lynch <clynch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:58:06 -0700
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A very, very bad analogy in fact. I have personally delivered a live 
fetus (still attached to the umbilical cord for a short time) from an 
expired mother, so how can you possibly say that a fetus is a "part" of 
the mother?    (01)

Cecil
Conklin, Don wrote:
> Bad analogy. A kidney has no capacity to be self sustaining hen removed from 
>its owner.
>
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> Chris
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> You're throwing emotional issues into the discussion.
> I'm only talking about the definition of a "part".
> The fetus is a part of the mother, in the same sense
> that a kidney is a part of the mother.
>
> Dick 
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>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Richard H. McCullough wrote:
>>     
>>> From the viewpoint of metaphysics/epistemology, a fetus is not a human
>>> being, it is a part of a human being (the mother).
>>>       
>> Among philosophers, medical ethicists, etc, this is an entirely open and
>> controversial question.
>>
>>     
>>> After birth, it is a human being (the newborn).
>>>       
>> Are you proposing that we become human beings only after birth?  Not
>> that I'm interested in arguing the point, but that proposal is obviously
>> false.
>>
>> -chris
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