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To: <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "[ontolog-forum] " <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: cyclify austin <cyclify-austin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:43:05 -0800
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Ian    (01)

1. My guess is that the problem is with your OWL editor.    (02)

2. I have been accessing the OpenCyc Upper Ontology
(only 2 MB) for a number of years using mKE
(see http://mkrmke.org).  The main "problem" I found
was the infinite loops.  I had to change my hierarchy
display programs to use a visit count.
I have not tried the 124 MB file.    (03)

3. Most current OpenCyc activity is on the email group
cyclify-austin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    (04)

4. There is a new OpenCyc Web Services interface to
the ontology, accessible from www.cycfoundation.org.
mKE also has an OpenCyc Web Services interface.    (05)

5. You should be aware that the OpenCyc ontology is
context-dependent.  Since OWL does not have contexts
or procedures, the OWL file is a simplified version of the
OpenCyc ontology.    (06)

Dick McCullough
Ayn Rand do speak od mKR done;
mKE do enhance od Real Intelligence done;
knowledge := man do identify od existent done;
knowledge haspart proposition list;
http://mKRmKE.org/    (07)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Bailey" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: [ontolog-forum] OpenCyc OWL Files    (08)


> Hi,
>
> As part of an ontology-based reference data demonstrator I'm working on, I
> decided to go look what was out there for free, or at least under creative
> commons. I downloaded the OpenCyc OWL file and loaded it into my OWL 
> editor
> (all 124MB of it!).
>
> I seem to be finding lots of orphan classes there - i.e. ones that are
> sitting right at the top of the sub-super hierarchy. When I go look in the
> OWL file itself, these classes seem to be in the file twice - once with
> their sub-super relationship and once without.
>
> As the file is so big, I can't be sure of what the problem is - it may 
> well
> be my OWL Editor struggling with such a large file.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this problem, and if so do you know if there 
> is
> a corrected version available ?  The only way I can find for contacting
> OpenCyc is through their SourceForge forum, but it doesn't appear to be 
> that
> active.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Ian
> www.modelfutures.com
>
>
>
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