Ed (01)
Valuable comments -in my opinion. I would only add that like everything
in the universe, each object and phenomenon, including usefulness of
research has time-bound relevance and validity.
Inverse square Coulomb laws are still OK in most situations but for
moving electrons relativistic corrections are necessary.
Hence, new discoveries are bending our perception of matter such as
after quarks and gluons rather than mesons, bosons for proton-neutron
interaction.
Thanks. (02)
Many times science gets stuck in a loop due to overwhelming
personalities that actually help retard the progress and it is hard for
counter-opinions to survive because of ridicule or fear? (03)
(Chandrasekhar-Eddington case is an example!) (04)
Thanks. (05)
Ravi (06)
(Dr. Ravi Sharma) Senior Enterprise Architect (07)
Vangent, Inc. Technology Excellence Center (TEC) (08)
8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
(o) 703-827-0638, (c) 313-204-1740 www.vangent.com (09)
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Chris Partridge wrote: (011)
> Among philosophers of science, I believe that the notion of
fruitfulness is
> reasonably well established. Examples of it would be applications of a
> theory to things that the progenitor had no conception of when he or
she put
> the theory forward. There are lots of quoted examples from Newton's
and
> Einstein's work. There is also a lot of material on the web (and ones
local
> library), if one has time to research it. I understand that among many
> working scientists fruitfulness in this sense is regarded as a key
test of
> whether a theory is good/useful or not - so at least some people hold
it in
> high regard. (012)
But surely this is always in hindsight. Mathematicians and physicists,
like software engineers, have some sense of "elegance" in developing a
new theory, but elegance doesn't guarantee fruitfulness. 150 years
later, we can say that simple atomic theory was fruitful, even though we (013)
now know that simple atomic theory was a vast oversimplification of
atomic physics. OTOH, plate tectonics was rejected for 50 years, until
we were able to make enough reliable seismic measurements to see that it (014)
actually explained them -- in a sense, it was experimentally validated. (015)
At the other end of the spectrum, we have Lee De Forest, who fiddled
around with vacuum tube arrangements until he found one that did a
better job of picking up radio waves than Marconi's device. It was a
very fruitful invention, even though it was founded on very little, and
mostly erroneous, understanding of the actual phenomenon. Fruitfulness
isn't restricted to carefully developed theories. 10 years later, Edwin (016)
Armstrong developed a theory that explained how the device actually
functioned, and went on to make much better ones, but (patent disputes
aside) he started from De Forest's accidental insight. Many assert that (017)
Armstrong's work is what made De Forest's "audion tube" fruitful, but
the value of a theory or device to the later work of others is how we
define "fruitful". (018)
What we are talking about in this forum is design, not prophecy. An
engineer designs a device to perform a particular function, to be "fit
for a purpose". A scientist devises a theory to be consistent with all
the knowledge s/he has and to explain/predict a particular set of
phenomena (i.e., to be fit for those purposes). Similarly, we can
design an ontology to be consistent with all the knowledge we have and
to be fit for a set of known purposes. Any fruitfulness beyond that is
serendipity, in all cases. And it is probably fair to say that
fruitfulness will be a function of:
(a) the quality and extent of the knowledge we had at the outset
(b) the insight we had that generated the design/theory/ontology
(c) the acceptance and use of the design/theory/ontology by others,
whether purposefully, grudgingly, or unwittingly. (019)
One designs for fitness to a set of known purposes, not for potential
"fruitfulness". (It is my impression that Matthew and Paola almost
agreed to that.) (020)
I have seen a number of instances of persons who design a theory to
support what they understand well and also phenomena for which they have (021)
some awareness but no expertise. Without exception, those theories have (022)
been useless or counterproductive for the extended phenomena. (What
inevitably happens is that the proponents force the square pegs in the
extended domain into the round holes in the theory, thereby divorcing
the theoretical results from the realities.) My former mentor, the late (023)
Dr. Selden Stewart, described this effort to achieve fruitfulness beyond (024)
one's knowledge domain as "the seductiveness of simple cases", a form of (025)
"false induction": the theory works for lots of simple cases that we are (026)
now familiar with; therefore it must work for more complex cases that we (027)
haven't studied so well. The examples include the unix (v5) model of
peripheral stores, reactive hierarchical control, object modeling,
reusable components, orchestrated processes, and several bizarre ideas
that have wrecked adoption of what might have been worthwhile standards. (028)
So I would in fact caution *against* attempts to design for
"fruitfulness" beyond one's domain of expertise. (029)
-Ed (030)
P.S. In 1994, the UK editor of ISO 10303-11 (the information modeling
language EXPRESS) announced the results of a survey of needs for version (031)
2, and the set was so diverse in direction that I asked whether he had
in mind one project or two. The editor said, "one, of course", and the
senior U.S. delegate (Peter Wilson, of Boeing) said, "Oh, I was sure you (032)
would say two." A German delegate asked why Peter thought there should
be two projects, and Peter answered, "Because I have the grey hair,
that's why." (And OBTW, 7 years later, the "one" project failed.) (033)
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and have not been reviewed by any Government authority." (035)
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