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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:34:59 -0600
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At 1:28 PM -0500 1/16/08, Mills Davis wrote:
Here are three more views of context:

Context is discourse that surrounds a language unit and helps to determine its interpretation.

That seems to be sense 2 below (because of 'discourse', which I presume excludes mere text: if not, it also encompasses sense 1.)

Context is information that characterizes the situation of an entity, person, place, or object, and includes facts,
circumstances and conditions which ³surround² an event such as its absolute and relative location in space and time.

Unfortunately, that word "situation" also has many meanings, so more exegesis is needed here. Two common but mutually incompatible meanings of 'situation' are a state of the actual world, and a limited collection of information about some state of the actual world.

BTW, do you really mean to say that the context is information? A time-interval, for example, is not information, nor is a location.

Time-intervals and spatial locations are both reasonably well-understood locators of truth, to be sure, with their own theories and formalizations, but nothing seems to be gained by calling them 'contexts'.

BTW, if we know anything about contexts, it is that this space/time/locator kind has virtually nothing at all in common with the first kind. They satisfy different axioms and are mutually incompatible.

Context is an abstract model of the variables that are important and relevant to a mission or task.

variables?
Figuratively, context is the ³eye of the beholder.² Context describes the salient features of a given environment,system, or situation (here & now) within a problem space.

feature = variable?
A wealth of information is required to infer and interpret an object¹s context.

Surely an object cannot just have a context, by itself. A bare object has nothing to make some of its features more salient than others. Must there not also be something that 'sets' the context: a task, or a mission, or a beholder? And then isn't the context more like a relationship between this mission-thing and the object itself (?)

 Relevance is determined by the type of object and the current task of the user, e.g., making a phone call, doing e-mail, writing a report. Contexts can be associated with to-do items, projects, activities, etc.

Hmmm. Let me ask, is there any kind of thing that could NOT be a context, or part of a context, in this third sense? Or can a context be anything, or perhaps any set of any things? If (as I suspect) the latter, then this is not a definition of anything, as it does not identify any actual category.

Pat Hayes


On Jan 16, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Pat Hayes wrote:

At 3:37 PM -0700 1/15/08, Sharma, Ravi wrote:
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Pat
I would be happy to learn about what the group has already defined the word 3Context2 to mean.

I said there were many :-) Not from 'the group' (which group?) but from the broader community, including the participants at the several context workshops, and contributors to various journals. A few:

1. The surrounding or preceding text of an occurrence of a word or phrase, which disambiguates its intended meaning. Usually restricted to the immediate sentence.
2. Similarly, but applied to a conversation, and meaning the 'common ground' (mutually agreed beliefs, topics, etc.) of the participants at that point; usually extends well beyond one sentence or utterance.
3. Similar to 2., but rather than common ground, the actual physical setting of the conversation, the 'situation' in which it is taking place
4. A set of assumptions or beliefs providing a temporary focus of reasoning and used to select particular axioms or theories applied to a concept or concepts (aka "microtheory")
5. A linguistic or cultural tradition providing the origin of a text, and which must be taken into account in order to fully extract the intended meaning of the text.
6. Anything which satisfies the axioms of some 'theory of contexts'. This of course depends on the theory: they tend to be very weak theories.

That will probably do for a start.

Pat

Thanks for your help in anticipation of the same and any links relating to the same.
Best Regards.
Ravi
(Dr. Ravi Sharma) Senior Enterprise Architect
Vangent, Inc. Technical Excellence Center (TEC)
8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
(o) 703-827-0638, (c) 3132041740 www.vangent.com

From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Scheduling a Discussion [was: CL, CG, IKL and the relationship between symbols in the logical "universe of discourse" and individuals in the "real world"]

At 11:58 AM -0700 1/15/08, Sharma, Ravi wrote:
Context:

Think of

No, no. We are a long way past "think of"-style brainstorming. Give us your actual *definition* of 'context'. Or choose from the large variety that have already been proposed. If you have no definition, please come back when you have clarified your thinking well enough to make a useful contribution, so that the rest of will have some inkling what it is that you are talking about.

concatenation of ideas, also precursor discussion link, also
from computer memory stack based on pointers where non-contiguous chunks
of relevant executable code reside.

There are context switching exercises in cultures and people have

practices of switching up to eight contexts in a round table
So a context is something that can be picked up from a table? A physical object? That IS a new idea. Details??
Pat

and picking
in each cycle from where they left in the last round in a round-robin
fashion.

Ravi

(Dr. Ravi Sharma) Senior Enterprise Architect

Vangent, Inc. Technical Excellence Center (TEC)

8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
(o) 703-827-0638, (c) 3132041740
www.vangent.com



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mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
Sowa
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Scheduling a Discussion [was: CL, CG, IKL
and the relationship between symbols in the logical "universe of
discourse" and individuals in the "real world"]

Duane,

I did not read that document in detail, but from just skimming it,

I could not find a definition of the word 'context':

> In an effort to share what Adobe means/is doing in the context arena,
> there is a document that explains some aspects we are technically
> linking together for our LiveCycle Enterprise Suite Business Activity
> Monitoring (BAM) servers here:
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_lc_bamworkbench
>
> Section 2 is a good place to start or just search for the term
> "context". I hope this sheds some light on our interest.

That section talks about "context data", but it does not give
a definition of the word 'context'.

From what I can gather, the document seems to use the word
'context' in roughly the same way I was suggesting: it is a
syntactic notion that identifies a context by a reference to
some container of the relevant data. It does not state any
axioms for anything remotely resembling a "context logic".

John


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