>1) A footnote to John Sowa's 'Fads and Fallacies about Logic', the Greek
>term Logos, from which the work logic derives, referred to something
>written and was contrasted to Mythos, something spoken, from which. I
>can't track down the reference, but around the 5th century the
>traditional Mythos lost status as compared to Logos, and hence the
>negative connotations to the truth value of myths.
>2) Re previous discussion on creating a "the upper ontology", see the
>interview "Shades of Meaning" in this week's New Scientist (30 June
>2007). Among several points relevant to the discussion of ontologies,
>"In Benin in West Africa, for example, men and women have different
>colour vocabularies". (01)
The linguist Robin Lakoff noted some time ago
that American men and women have different color
vocabularies. Women for example reliably
distinguish scarlet from crimson, both of which
are described as 'red' by 90% or more of males,
and women use color terms such as 'puce', 'teal'
and 'ecru' whose meanings are completely opaque
to men who do not work in the clothing industry. (02)
> It seems unlikely that we could agree a single
>universal "colour ontology", except possibly as an academic exercise of
>little relevance to real engineers... (03)
Naaah, be careful. The lack of a common NL
vocabulary does not mean that there is a similar
spread of *concepts*. In fact there is
considerable evidence that all human beings share
a basic set of color perceptions organized around
prototypical colors. Different linguistic
cultures have built different vocabularies on top
of this biological skeleton, but its value is a
common organizing framework should not be
obscured by mere linguistics. (04)
Pat Hayes (05)
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>> > ... can you please point to a few valuables in the road
>> kill that > should be spotlighted or saved ...
>> The term was jocular, but the point behind it is that the
>> enormous attention and funding that has been poured into the
>> Semantic Web has changed the direction of a great deal of R &
>> D. The issues are much more complex than just a list of "road kill".
>> I presented a talk in August 2006, which addressed many of
>> the historical trends and the areas that need more attention.
>> Following are the slides:
>> Extending Semantic Interoperability
>> To Legacy Systems and an Unpredictable Future
>> Following is an article that addresses some related topics:
>> Fads and Fallacies about Logic
>> This talk and this article do not discuss the semantic web in
>> any detail, but they address some historical trends, some
>> future possibilities, and some questions about how to get
>> from where we are to where we would like to be.
>> One of my recommendations is summarized in the following
>> diagram, which illustrates various languages and diagrams for
>> the human interfaces, various languages for the machine
>> interfaces, and Common Logic as the common intermediate language.
>> In the middle, Common Logic could be replaced by IKL, which
>> is an extension to the draft CL standard that could become
> > the basis for a future update to the standard.
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