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From: "Barker, Sean (UK)" <Sean.Barker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:06:35 +0100
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Julius Tomin gets about 14,000 hits on Google. Perhaps the most relevant
quote in the fist 20 comes from Antony Kenny
http://www.radio.cz/en/article/55499    (01)

"We in Oxford - the philosophers from the faculty in Oxford - had a
letter from a man called Julius Tomin, who told us that he had an
informal philosophy group that met in his apartment every week or so in
Prague, and that it was attended by people who found it difficult to get
to university, because their parents had been involved with Charter 77.
And he said that anyone from Oxford would be most welcome to come. So
many people from Oxford came, and some from other universities. My own
visit was in itself in no way remarkable, except that it was one of two
or three over a period of years, and was actually interrupted by the
police, broken up and I was extradited from the country under an article
of the criminal code forbidding hooliganism, which I had not realized
included lecturing on Aristotle in private rooms. That made a certain
stir in the English newspapers. But what really stands out in my mind is
that these people were so devoted to philosophy that they would attend
philosophy seminars on fairly abstruse bits of Aristotle, knowing that
there was a risk they would be carried off to prison, at least for a
short period, for doing so."    (02)

Sean Barker
Bristol, UK    (03)

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> Something strange with this statement about the underground 
> study of Aristotle. In the Soviet Union, Plato, Hegel, and 
> particularly Aristotle venerated as geniuses, accordingly, 
> their works had been widely distributed and publicly accessible.
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> > Sean,
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> > That is the ultimate sign of relevance:
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> > > My tutor for this was a Czech dissident, known
> > > for holding illegal seminars on Aristotle.
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> > Anything that is so threatening that the authorities
> > declare it to be illegal must be relevant to some
> > very important issues.
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> > John
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