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Re: [ontolog-forum] A "common basis"

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From: "Gary Berg-Cross" <gary.berg-cross@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:30:11 -0400
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Pat.
 
In discussing the foundation ontology to serve as the conceptual defining vocabulary, you proposed that it
"will in fact have the common starting points that allows one to show out
how even relatively fundamental concept representations differ from each other."

In an earlier message you also said,

"The feasibility is strongly suggested by the fact that such a principle
has already been used for over twenty years by some dictionary vendors,
who use a controlled "defining vocabulary" with which to define all the
words (ca 100,000) in their dictionaries.  Linguistic definitions of
specialized terms will often use words not in the base 2000-word
defining vocabulary, but the undefined words can themselves be defined
by the base defining vocabulary.  I did a test using the Longman's
defining vocabulary and defined 500 words (including 'DNA') not in the
base vocabulary and found that all of the definitions could be grounded
(recursively, as explained) on the base defining vocabulary, with the
need to add only two new words to the defining vocabulary itself
('dimension' and 'participant')."

Can you summarize what your starting points for this work on the
"base 2000-word defining vocabulary: is at this point?  Sounds like we
could then have a go at whether these might satisfy wether they can
"show out  how even relatively fundamental concept representations differ from each other."
 
Gary Berg-Cross

From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Cassidy, Patrick J.
Sent: Wed 5/2/2007 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] A "common basis"

A comment on just one point from John:

When the ontologies being
> compared have no common starting point, proving incompatibility is
> not at all easy (unfortunately, proving compatibility is not so easy
> either!).

Ideally, the foundation ontology that serves as the conceptual defining
vocabulary will in fact have the common starting points that allows one
to show out how even relatively fundamental concept representations
differ from each other.  If you have any thoughts about what concepts
need to be represented to do that, please let us know!

Pat

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