uri is a question, right? (01)
Rex (02)
At 11:49 PM +0200 4/16/07, Waclaw Kusnierczyk wrote:
>now please y'all explain how much it is about whatever could be called a
>big uri.
>
>Pat Hayes wrote:
>>> Having lived in Texas for some years, I didn't see the multiple version
>>> of "y'all" used. "Y-all" was applied to individuals and/or groups
>>> indiscriminately.
>>
>> Yes. In fact, close observation suggests that
>> what it actually means is something like "as many
>> of you as wish to hear this", i.e. it is flexible
>> between "you", "all of you", and "any of you".
>> One includes oneself in the set of addressees by
>> responding to the sentence in which the y'all
>> occurs. This makes it a very polite and friendly
>> form of address, since it can be ignored without
>> giving offense, and the decision about whether
>> one is being addressed falls to the listener
>> rather than the speaker. Kind of a pull
>> technology for human conversation.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>> As a native New Yorker, I thought "youse" was a similarly used term
>>> applicable to individuals or groups.
>>>
>>> Don Conklin
>>> Lockheed Martin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of McComb,
>>> Dave
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:25 PM
>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>
>>> I've had it on pretty good authority that the plural of y'all is
>>> "all-y'all" as in "Why don't all-y'all come on down for some grits?"
>>>
>>> Dave McComb, President, Semantic Arts, Inc. www.semanticarts.com
>>> (970) 490-2224
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
>>> Sowa
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:13 PM
>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> As a Pittsburgh native, I can fill in some details of the
>>> Pittsburgh dialect (which I heard, but never mastered
>>> because of conflict with my grandmother's Polish).
>>>
>>> CM> "y'all'll" is an authentic Texas double contraction, y'all!
>>> > My favorite is the 2nd-person plural possessive "y'all's",
>>> > as in "Do y'all want lemon in y'all's ice tea?" The only
>>> > other English 2nd-person plurals I know of are "youse" and
>>> > "you-uns" (and their variants like "yiz" and "yins"), but
>>> > I'm not sure if either accommodates the possessive -- can
>>> > any New England or Appalachian natives speak authoritatively
>>> > here?
>>>
>>> The Pittsburgh plural is halfway between "you-uns" and "yins".
>>> It has one syllable like "yins", but the vowel is pronounced
>>> with the tongue lower and farther back.
>>>
>>> My favorite contraction occurs in the following Pittsburghese
>>> sentence:
>>>
>>> "Whynchyuins kids red up the hahs while I go take a shahr?"
>>>
>>> The first word is a contraction of "Why-don't-you-ones".
>>>
>>> The verb "red up" means to "ready up". It occurs in some
>>> Scottish dialects and in some parts of Canada and Virginia
>>> as well as Western Pennsylvania.
>>>
>>> The diphthong /au/ in "house" and "shower" is pronounced
>>> as a long vowel, as in the "a" of "about", but lengthened
>>> for same duration as the diphthong in "house".
>>>
>>> And by the way, the Chicago plural of "you" is "yaz",
>>> with the same vowel as in the "a" of "about".
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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