I very much like the discussion, it's delicious. Just wondering about
changing the subject (read: the subject line, not the subject of the
discussion). (01)
vQ (02)
Rex Brooks wrote:
> uri is a question, right?
>
> Rex
>
> At 11:49 PM +0200 4/16/07, Waclaw Kusnierczyk wrote:
>> now please y'all explain how much it is about whatever could be called a
>> big uri.
>>
>> Pat Hayes wrote:
>>>> Having lived in Texas for some years, I didn't see the multiple version
>>>> of "y'all" used. "Y-all" was applied to individuals and/or groups
>>>> indiscriminately.
>>> Yes. In fact, close observation suggests that
>>> what it actually means is something like "as many
>>> of you as wish to hear this", i.e. it is flexible
>>> between "you", "all of you", and "any of you".
>>> One includes oneself in the set of addressees by
>>> responding to the sentence in which the y'all
>>> occurs. This makes it a very polite and friendly
>>> form of address, since it can be ignored without
>>> giving offense, and the decision about whether
>>> one is being addressed falls to the listener
>>> rather than the speaker. Kind of a pull
>>> technology for human conversation.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>> As a native New Yorker, I thought "youse" was a similarly used term
>>>> applicable to individuals or groups.
>>>>
>>>> Don Conklin
>>>> Lockheed Martin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of McComb,
>>>> Dave
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:25 PM
>>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>>
>>>> I've had it on pretty good authority that the plural of y'all is
>>>> "all-y'all" as in "Why don't all-y'all come on down for some grits?"
>>>>
>>>> Dave McComb, President, Semantic Arts, Inc. www.semanticarts.com
>>>> (970) 490-2224
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
>>>> Sowa
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:13 PM
>>>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> As a Pittsburgh native, I can fill in some details of the
>>>> Pittsburgh dialect (which I heard, but never mastered
>>>> because of conflict with my grandmother's Polish).
>>>>
>>>> CM> "y'all'll" is an authentic Texas double contraction, y'all!
>>>> > My favorite is the 2nd-person plural possessive "y'all's",
>>>> > as in "Do y'all want lemon in y'all's ice tea?" The only
>>>> > other English 2nd-person plurals I know of are "youse" and
>>>> > "you-uns" (and their variants like "yiz" and "yins"), but
>>>> > I'm not sure if either accommodates the possessive -- can
>>>> > any New England or Appalachian natives speak authoritatively
>>>> > here?
>>>>
>>>> The Pittsburgh plural is halfway between "you-uns" and "yins".
>>>> It has one syllable like "yins", but the vowel is pronounced
>>>> with the tongue lower and farther back.
>>>>
>>>> My favorite contraction occurs in the following Pittsburghese
>>>> sentence:
>>>>
>>>> "Whynchyuins kids red up the hahs while I go take a shahr?"
>>>>
>>>> The first word is a contraction of "Why-don't-you-ones".
>>>>
>>>> The verb "red up" means to "ready up". It occurs in some
>>>> Scottish dialects and in some parts of Canada and Virginia
>>>> as well as Western Pennsylvania.
>>>>
>>>> The diphthong /au/ in "house" and "shower" is pronounced
>>>> as a long vowel, as in the "a" of "about", but lengthened
>>>> for same duration as the diphthong in "house".
>>>>
>>>> And by the way, the Chicago plural of "you" is "yaz",
>>>> with the same vowel as in the "a" of "about".
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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