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Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI

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From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:35:16 +0200
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I very much like the discussion, it's delicious.  Just wondering about 
changing the subject (read:  the subject line, not the subject of the 
discussion).    (01)

vQ    (02)

Rex Brooks wrote:
> uri is a question, right?
> 
> Rex
> 
> At 11:49 PM +0200 4/16/07, Waclaw Kusnierczyk wrote:
>> now please y'all explain how much it is about whatever could be called a
>> big uri.
>>
>> Pat Hayes wrote:
>>>>  Having lived in Texas for some years, I didn't see the multiple version
>>>>  of "y'all" used. "Y-all" was applied to individuals and/or groups
>>>>  indiscriminately.
>>>  Yes. In fact, close observation suggests that
>>>  what it actually means is something like "as many
>>>  of you as wish to hear this", i.e. it is flexible
>>>  between "you", "all of you", and "any of you".
>>>  One includes oneself in the set of addressees by
>>>  responding to the sentence in which the y'all
>>>  occurs. This makes it a very polite and friendly
>>>  form of address, since it can be ignored without
>>>  giving offense, and the decision about whether
>>>  one is being addressed falls to the listener
>>>  rather than the speaker. Kind of a pull
>>>  technology for human conversation.
>>>
>>>  Pat
>>>
>>>>  As a native New Yorker, I thought "youse" was a similarly used term
>>>>  applicable to individuals or groups.
>>>>
>>>>  Don Conklin
>>>>  Lockheed Martin
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of McComb,
>>>>  Dave
>>>>  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:25 PM
>>>>  To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>>  Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>>
>>>>  I've had it on pretty good authority that the plural of y'all is
>>>>  "all-y'all" as in "Why don't all-y'all come on down for some grits?"
>>>>
>>>>  Dave McComb, President, Semantic Arts, Inc. www.semanticarts.com
>>>>  (970) 490-2224
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
>>>>  Sowa
>>>>  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:13 PM
>>>>  To: [ontolog-forum]
>>>>  Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>>>
>>>>  Chris,
>>>>
>>>>  As a Pittsburgh native, I can fill in some details of the
>>>>  Pittsburgh dialect (which I heard, but never mastered
>>>>  because of conflict with my grandmother's Polish).
>>>>
>>>>  CM> "y'all'll" is an authentic Texas double contraction, y'all!
>>>>   > My favorite is the 2nd-person plural possessive "y'all's",
>>>>   > as in "Do y'all want lemon in y'all's ice tea?"  The only
>>>>   > other English 2nd-person plurals I know of are "youse" and
>>>>   > "you-uns" (and their variants like "yiz" and "yins"), but
>>>>   > I'm not sure if either accommodates the possessive -- can
>>>>   > any New England or Appalachian natives speak authoritatively
>>>>   > here?
>>>>
>>>>  The Pittsburgh plural is halfway between "you-uns" and "yins".
>>>>  It has one syllable like "yins", but the vowel is pronounced
>>>>  with the tongue lower and farther back.
>>>>
>>>>  My favorite contraction occurs in the following Pittsburghese
>>>>  sentence:
>>>>
>>>>      "Whynchyuins kids red up the hahs while I go take a shahr?"
>>>>
>>>>  The first word is a contraction of "Why-don't-you-ones".
>>>>
>>>>  The verb "red up" means to "ready up".  It occurs in some
>>>>  Scottish dialects and in some parts of Canada and Virginia
>>>>  as well as Western Pennsylvania.
>>>>
>>>>  The diphthong /au/ in "house" and "shower" is pronounced
>>>>  as a long vowel, as in the "a" of "about", but lengthened
>>>>  for same duration as the diphthong in "house".
>>>>
>>>>  And by the way, the Chicago plural of "you" is "yaz",
>>>>  with the same vowel as in the "a" of "about".
>>>>
>>>>  John
>>>>
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>> --
>> Wacek Kusnierczyk
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