now please y'all explain how much it is about whatever could be called a
big uri. (01)
Pat Hayes wrote:
>> Having lived in Texas for some years, I didn't see the multiple version
>> of "y'all" used. "Y-all" was applied to individuals and/or groups
>> indiscriminately.
>
> Yes. In fact, close observation suggests that
> what it actually means is something like "as many
> of you as wish to hear this", i.e. it is flexible
> between "you", "all of you", and "any of you".
> One includes oneself in the set of addressees by
> responding to the sentence in which the y'all
> occurs. This makes it a very polite and friendly
> form of address, since it can be ignored without
> giving offense, and the decision about whether
> one is being addressed falls to the listener
> rather than the speaker. Kind of a pull
> technology for human conversation.
>
> Pat
>
>> As a native New Yorker, I thought "youse" was a similarly used term
>> applicable to individuals or groups.
>>
>> Don Conklin
>> Lockheed Martin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of McComb,
>> Dave
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:25 PM
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>
>> I've had it on pretty good authority that the plural of y'all is
>> "all-y'all" as in "Why don't all-y'all come on down for some grits?"
>>
>> Dave McComb, President, Semantic Arts, Inc. www.semanticarts.com
>> (970) 490-2224
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F.
>> Sowa
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:13 PM
>> To: [ontolog-forum]
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Big URI
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> As a Pittsburgh native, I can fill in some details of the
>> Pittsburgh dialect (which I heard, but never mastered
>> because of conflict with my grandmother's Polish).
>>
>> CM> "y'all'll" is an authentic Texas double contraction, y'all!
>> > My favorite is the 2nd-person plural possessive "y'all's",
>> > as in "Do y'all want lemon in y'all's ice tea?" The only
>> > other English 2nd-person plurals I know of are "youse" and
>> > "you-uns" (and their variants like "yiz" and "yins"), but
>> > I'm not sure if either accommodates the possessive -- can
>> > any New England or Appalachian natives speak authoritatively
>> > here?
>>
>> The Pittsburgh plural is halfway between "you-uns" and "yins".
>> It has one syllable like "yins", but the vowel is pronounced
>> with the tongue lower and farther back.
>>
>> My favorite contraction occurs in the following Pittsburghese
>> sentence:
>>
>> "Whynchyuins kids red up the hahs while I go take a shahr?"
>>
>> The first word is a contraction of "Why-don't-you-ones".
>>
>> The verb "red up" means to "ready up". It occurs in some
>> Scottish dialects and in some parts of Canada and Virginia
>> as well as Western Pennsylvania.
>>
>> The diphthong /au/ in "house" and "shower" is pronounced
>> as a long vowel, as in the "a" of "about", but lengthened
>> for same duration as the diphthong in "house".
>>
>> And by the way, the Chicago plural of "you" is "yaz",
>> with the same vowel as in the "a" of "about".
>>
>> John
>>
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