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From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:34:45 -0700
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Duane, ... It is very gracious of you to respond with useful 
suggestions to Cecelia. However, since they are commercial in 
nature, it may be best if you do that offline.  =ppy    (01)

All,    (02)

To make sure Ontolog stays true to its charter and IPR policy, 
let's restrict commercially skewed comments and posts to a 
community member's wiki name-sake page only. This is especially 
true if the poster is associated with, or has a conflict of 
interest, with the product/technology/standard being discussed, 
and when that product/technology/standard is of a proprietary nature.    (03)

We can start a discussion on this, if people feels differently 
about how we should handle such posts.    (04)

Thanks & regards.  =ppy
--    (05)

Duane Nickull wrote Sun, 07 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700:
> Hello Cecilia:
> Thanks for coming out of the closet ;-)
> Your email has a lot of items we should probably respond to. I will pick 
> one minor item (RDF).  If you are implementing it, you may wish to take 
> a look at Adobe XMP.  We have a free SDK available for our extensible 
> implementation of RDF called eXtensible Metadata platform.
> http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/main.html
> This may save you a large amount of work and there is no cost to use 
> it.  Tim Berners-Lee himself singled out Adobe as one vendor on the road 
> to the semantic web:
> http://www.ercim.org/publication/Ercim_News/enw51/berners-lee.html
> "Adobe gets it"
> http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/mar2002/nf20020327_4579.htm
> I think that there is definitely more clarity on the nature of binary 
> relations although many of the differences are very subtle.  Some 
> associations are also rarely used such as coreflexsive.  I am not sure 
> if there is unanimous consensus but the thread dying down seems to 
> indicate there are no major oppositions.There are more definitive 
> mathematical binary relations laid out on this page (I personally found 
> this helpful)
> http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/MathematicalRelation
> although these are math-centric and not the OO and class-centric 
> ontological views of the world which beasts like "disjoint" exist.
> Cheers
> Duane    (06)

> Cecelia Hickel wrote Sat, 06 Aug 2005 22:36:25 -0700:
>> Greetings All,
>> I have been quiet ( but monitoring) for some time now, AND thought I 
>> would
>> jump in briefly  only to share a link, say hello and see if an MP3 
>> file is
>> bad.  In catching up on discussions, presentations and reading through 
>> many
>> of the linked resources, some questions and concepts required much 
>> thought .
>> I read through with interest the discussion on taxonomy and ontology  and
>> checked out linked information.  I found this site to be insightful and
>> resourceful for several terminologies used in discussions.  Perhaps 
>> useful
>> to others as well.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology   Other terms included 
>> 'taxonomy',
>> 'ontology', 'first-order logic', 'category theory' and a few more. I 
>> need a
>> ball park idea sometimes to grasp things at all.
>> One comment, was there any real conclusion to the discussion on binary
>> relations? I could not see a connection frankly in the category theory 
>> paper
>> reference to simple binary relationships, that lost me for sure.  
>> Anyways, I
>> have a lot of work to do and I appreciate all the help I get from this
>> group.  I learn by listening and reading mostly. Perhaps one day I 
>> will have
>> a contribution from my experiences in developing a complex SOA to share,
>> which is exactly what I am building, slowly but surely.  I am focusing on
>> RDF implementation. This is quite difficult enough to master and I can 
>> not
>> foresee any pitfalls to this choice.  I am also Not focusing on using all
>> the XML web services standards as a solution set for my enterprise 
>> design.
>> I found I believe a better solution for building an SOA offering Web
>> Services than being encumbered by too much XML processing, using XML for
>> modeling everything, and building a grid design thereof. I have 
>> started from
>> scratch and control the application I/Os, the platform already handles 
>> most
>> of the XML I will ever need, thus NO XSLT.  I do plan to write a 
>> practical
>> book when finished. I mean why not?
>> Also, what is up with the June 30th recordings?  The MP3 continually 
>> breaks
>> up and less than half is audible. I listened through and know that 
>> this was
>> an informative meeting to have missed. Any chance the MP3 available on 
>> the
>> Internet is corrupt? No Worries,
>> Cecelia Hickel
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