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Re: [ontolog-forum] Knowledge Definition, Comments and Hello All

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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 08:32:19 -0700
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Hello Cecilia:    (01)

Thanks for coming out of the closet ;-)    (02)

Your email has a lot of items we should probably respond to. I will pick 
one minor item (RDF).  If you are implementing it, you may wish to take 
a look at Adobe XMP.  We have a free SDK available for our extensible 
implementation of RDF called eXtensible Metadata platform.    (03)

http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/main.html    (04)

This may save you a large amount of work and there is no cost to use 
it.  Tim Berners-Lee himself singled out Adobe as one vendor on the road 
to the semantic web:    (05)

http://www.ercim.org/publication/Ercim_News/enw51/berners-lee.html    (06)

"Adobe gets it"
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/mar2002/nf20020327_4579.htm    (07)

I think that there is definitely more clarity on the nature of binary 
relations although many of the differences are very subtle.  Some 
associations are also rarely used such as coreflexsive.  I am not sure 
if there is unanimous consensus but the thread dying down seems to 
indicate there are no major oppositions.There are more definitive 
mathematical binary relations laid out on this page (I personally found 
this helpful)    (08)

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/MathematicalRelation    (09)

although these are math-centric and not the OO and class-centric 
ontological views of the world which beasts like "disjoint" exist.     (010)

Cheers    (011)

Duane    (012)

Cecelia Hickel wrote:    (013)

>Greetings All,
>I have been quiet ( but monitoring) for some time now, AND thought I would
>jump in briefly  only to share a link, say hello and see if an MP3 file is
>bad.  In catching up on discussions, presentations and reading through many
>of the linked resources, some questions and concepts required much thought .
>I read through with interest the discussion on taxonomy and ontology  and
>checked out linked information.  I found this site to be insightful and
>resourceful for several terminologies used in discussions.  Perhaps useful
>to others as well.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology   Other terms included 'taxonomy',
>'ontology', 'first-order logic', 'category theory' and a few more. I need a
>ball park idea sometimes to grasp things at all.
>One comment, was there any real conclusion to the discussion on binary
>relations? I could not see a connection frankly in the category theory paper
>reference to simple binary relationships, that lost me for sure.  Anyways, I
>have a lot of work to do and I appreciate all the help I get from this
>group.  I learn by listening and reading mostly. Perhaps one day I will have
>a contribution from my experiences in developing a complex SOA to share,
>which is exactly what I am building, slowly but surely.  I am focusing on
>RDF implementation. This is quite difficult enough to master and I can not
>foresee any pitfalls to this choice.  I am also Not focusing on using all
>the XML web services standards as a solution set for my enterprise design.
>I found I believe a better solution for building an SOA offering Web
>Services than being encumbered by too much XML processing, using XML for
>modeling everything, and building a grid design thereof. I have started from
>scratch and control the application I/Os, the platform already handles most
>of the XML I will ever need, thus NO XSLT.  I do plan to write a practical
>book when finished. I mean why not?
>Also, what is up with the June 30th recordings?  The MP3 continually breaks
>up and less than half is audible. I listened through and know that this was
>an informative meeting to have missed. Any chance the MP3 available on the
>Internet is corrupt? No Worries,
>Cecelia Hickel
>Kiona Scientific
>Benton City, WA 99320
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