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Re: [sio-dev] Fwd: [ontolog-forum] Helping App Developers, was "Sharing

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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:46:15 -0700
Message-id: <20100410194622.444E1138D24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

EnglishLogicKernel.com

Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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Ron Wheeler wrote

Building ontologies is a fine thing but I am coming at the discussion

from the point of view of someone who would actually use ontologies to

build something - an application that incorporates a set of ontologies

to provide the logic with some set of facts.

 

If the OOR is only to support ontology developers, then it is at best an academic exercise and the real ontology work will move elsewhere.

It has to help application developers find the ontologies that they need and to understand which ones can be used together.

 

Yes, the basic economics will drive technology development.

 

In many large software projects, database architects get run over by the urgent needs of the moment for developers to meet schedule.  Then the inelegant changes actually made to the database become embedded into the GUI code; investors often decide they won't pay for elegance, only for return on cost, so they need realistic cost and value data. 

 

So the first step has to be to gauge where the currently assembled ontological knowledge focuses in the database, not just by the schema, but by the data actually reported into the database over the learning lifetime of the organization.  Then the INVESTOR-perceived costs and INVESTOR-perceived values will be used by the INVESTORs to fund projects they think will be useful.  

 

But there is a way to "help application developers find the ontologies they are presently" USING, as you almost stated, but IMPLICITLY, in their data.  So app developers have to do that first. 

 

Any new ontology will be added incrementally to existing operational databases.  It won't replace them in a major upgrade without first reviewing the currently expressed knowledge so they can relate that to the new, official ontological knowledge which is estimated to have greater value in pursuing than cost in implementing.  

 

So first, a process of assembling the existing database knowledge into ontological form will be needed.  Then the cost and value estimating and project planning can begin.  If the investors reckon cost too high or value too low, no creative destruction occurs.  

 

-Rich

 

 


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