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From: kenb <kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:24:10 -0400 (EDT)
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Indeed, that is what I am doing, and I am hoping that I can get some help 
with it. In the oor-dev mailing list, I asked for volunteers who can 
contribute to the OOR use cases, architecture and component APIs.    (01)

On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Cameron Ross wrote:    (02)

> So, shouldn't we finish the specification before we start talking about
> forking BioPortal?
> 
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 4:38 PM, kenb <kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>       I always understood that the deliverables included both a
>       specification
>       (architecture and APIs) and a reference implementation.
>
>       -- Ken
> 
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Cameron Ross wrote:
> 
> > OK, I see what Peter is trying to clarify...
> >
> > So, is the deliverable for the _OOR Group_ to be a specification for
> > an OOR, an implementation of an OOR, or both, or neither?
> >
> > Cameron.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Adam Pease <adampease@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Cameron,
> >>  I think it's just a minor (to most of us) question of phrasing that
> >> Peter was clarifying.  The deliverable for the ontolog group is just
> a
> >> discussion.  The deliverable for the OOR group (as distinct from the
> >> larger ontolog group that is hosting the OOR discussion) may or may
> not
> >> be an implementation, although personally I agree with you that it
> >> should be an implementation, hopefully with a very simple and clear
> >> specification.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 10:34 -0400, Cameron Ross wrote:
> >>> Hi Peter,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the description, but it doesn't clarify for me anyway.  
> We
> >>> meet, we discuss, we're talking about architecture, people are
> >>> starting to develop interfaces, we have the OOR sandbox... surely
> >>> we're striving for more than a water cooler discussion!
> >>>
> >>> This collective set of activities, whatever you chose to call them,
> >>> should deliver something tangible.  Is this to be a specification
> for
> >>> an OOR, an implementation of an OOR, or both, or neither?
> >>>
> >>> Cameron
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you for asking, Cameron.  For those who weren't already
> aware ...
> >>>>
> >>>> ONTOLOG and OOR are two separate and distinct entities
> (communities.)
> >>>>
> >>>> ONTOLOG is a community of practice (CoP) operating on a (donated)
> >>>> virtal collaborative work  environment (CWE), which also serves as
> the
> >>>> community's dynamic knowledge repository (DKR). ... [note that
> Ontolog
> >>>> is just supposed to be a good conversation (think, the water
> cooler
> >>>> conversation ...)]
> >>>>
> >>>> OOR is an initiative, a project, or, more appropriately, a
> collection
> >>>> of projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> It so happens that the OOR initiative is being incubated by
> Ontolog on
> >>>> it's CWE (to the extent that some of the OOR transactions and work
> are
> >>>> being done on the Ontolog CWE.)
> >>>>
> >>>> While there are overlaps in these two communities' membership,
> there
> >>>> is no direct mandate or relationship between the two.
> >>>>
> >>>> Other communities, initiatives, projects, programs similarly
> incubated
> >>>> or 'residing' in the Ontolog CWE include the annual OntologySummit
> >>>> series, BSP, IAOA, SIO, etc. (just to show that OOR is not alone
> in
> >>>> this regard.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Therefore, Ontolog's deliverable to OOR (if one really has to
> frame it
> >>>> that way) is to provide it with a "nice place to work," as best it
> >>>> can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this clarifies things.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter Yim
> >>>> Co-convener, ONTOLOG
> >>>> Co-convener, OOR
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/18/10, Cameron Ross <cross@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>> Is the primary deliverable from ONTOLOG's work on OOR to be a
> >>>>> specification, an implementation, or both?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cameron
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
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