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Re: [oor-forum] OOR Deliverable

To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Cameron Ross <cross@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:32:20 -0400
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On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:    (02)

> Cameron and All,
>
>
>> We meet, we discuss, we're talking about architecture, people are
>> starting to develop interfaces, we have the OOR sandbox...
>
>
> [ppy]  ...  yes, those (the 17-sep-2010 meeting, for example) were OOR
> meetings (not Ontolog meetings).
>
> OOR deliverables are driven by it's mission (ref. The OOR Charter -
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YN
> ) and what OOR member (individuals or contributing projects) bring to
> the table.
>
> ... noting that, (at least) for the moment, there is no overall
> funding for the "OOR" initiative, and hence, no specific commitment to
> a specific set of deliverables, the alternative-week OOR team meeting
> have been working on this continuously since 2008.
>
> That said, most of the contributing projects in the OOR "family" (say,
> from BioPortal, to work at NEU, Bremen, UofToronto, .. .alll the way
> to the SOCoP-INTEROP, which just got funded by NSF) would almost
> definitely have specific deliverables. The art and science of
> coordinating these to deliver the OOR mission, is, obviously, the team
> needs to work on too.
>
> To avoid further confusion, you could start another thread on "OOR
> Deliverables" (or morph this over) if you want.
>
Didn't I start this thread as "OOR Deliverable"?
>
> Regards.  =ppy
> --
>
>
> On 9/18/10, Cameron Ross <cross@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for the description, but it doesn't clarify for me anyway.   We
>> meet, we discuss, we're talking about architecture, people are
>> starting to develop interfaces, we have the OOR sandbox... surely
>> we're striving for more than a water cooler discussion!
>>
>> This collective set of activities, whatever you chose to call them,
>> should deliver something tangible.  Is this to be a specification for
>> an OOR, an implementation of an OOR, or both, or neither?
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for asking, Cameron.  For those who weren't already aware ...
>>>
>>> ONTOLOG and OOR are two separate and distinct entities (communities.)
>>>
>>> ONTOLOG is a community of practice (CoP) operating on a (donated)
>>> virtal collaborative work  environment (CWE), which also serves as the
>>> community's dynamic knowledge repository (DKR). ... [note that Ontolog
>>> is just supposed to be a good conversation (think, the water cooler
>>> conversation ...)]
>>>
>>> OOR is an initiative, a project, or, more appropriately, a collection
>>> of projects.
>>>
>>> It so happens that the OOR initiative is being incubated by Ontolog on
>>> it's CWE (to the extent that some of the OOR transactions and work are
>>> being done on the Ontolog CWE.)
>>>
>>> While there are overlaps in these two communities' membership, there
>>> is no direct mandate or relationship between the two.
>>>
>>> Other communities, initiatives, projects, programs similarly incubated
>>> or 'residing' in the Ontolog CWE include the annual OntologySummit
>>> series, BSP, IAOA, SIO, etc. (just to show that OOR is not alone in
>>> this regard.)
>>>
>>> Therefore, Ontolog's deliverable to OOR (if one really has to frame it
>>> that way) is to provide it with a "nice place to work," as best it
>>> can.
>>>
>>> Hope this clarifies things.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>>
>>> Peter Yim
>>> Co-convener, ONTOLOG
>>> Co-convener, OOR
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/18/10, Cameron Ross <cross@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Is the primary deliverable from ONTOLOG's work on OOR to be a
>>>> specification, an implementation, or both?
>>>>
>>>> Cameron
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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