Just for grins, I did an import of the NAICS spreadsheet using TopBraid
Composer, and wrote a quick SPARQL query to rebuild the class hierarchy by
subtracting the last digit to find the parent class. I didn't bother
distinguishing leaves as instances, but that isn't impossible. This was just
a "how hard can this be?" exercise, so I have not applied any of the
ontology quality tests that we have been talking about! (01)
Here it is attached as a Turtle file (much more readable). If you really
need RDF I generated that too. (02)
- Steve (03)
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Deb, (06)
Translating the NAIC into rdf is a much bigger job than anticipated. (07)
IT requires that a script be written to distinguish between classes and
instances (instances are the bottom most number of a tree). I do not have
this skill. (08)
I initially thought I could easily pivot the table to create a tree and then
import, but I do not have those skills in excel. (09)
My tool does not easily allow the creation of classes from the spreadsheet.
I would be looking at a many day process to develop the hierarchy and then
populate it with instances. (010)
I am wondering if someone at Reassert is still around that helped convert
the US data gov info into RDF? (011)
The OmniClass Table 32 has a problem too because many of the Level 2 title
use the same title as in other Level 1 categories. The OmniClass code does
changes. The definition remains the same. I So I could create instances
based on the code and when you query the label, you would potentially get
several and you would have to select the correct parent category. Or, I
create instances based on the title name and include the several codes
assigned to the same title with the single definition. You would be able to
find the proper code you want through the options of the parent class. Once
you let me know which you prefer, it would be easy to implement as my idea
would only have the Level 1 titles be a class (about 10) and the remaining
Level 2-4 to be instances using SKOS broader/narrower to define level 2-4. I
can include synonyms (skos altLabel) and definitions. (012)
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www.innovatia.net (014)
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Hi Paul (016)
A few years ago I dug into the NAICS codes and there is already a nice
overlap. (017)
The OmniClass Services table maps over to these codes, see
[http://www.nationalbimstandard.org/nbims-us-v2/pdf/NBIMS-US2_c2.8.pdf] (018)
OmniClass and NAICS sit right next to each other (alphabetically!) on the
DoD Products and Services Report in the Business Enterprise Architecture
8.1, see
[http://dcmo.defense.gov/products-and-services/business-enterprise-architect
ure/8.1/delta/term.htm] however please note 10 is current, see
[http://dcmo.defense.gov/products-and-services/business-enterprise-architect
ure/10.0/classic/index.htm] (019)
The Department of Energy DOE Building Energy Performance (BEP) Taxonomy also
includes both OmniClass and NAICS, see
[http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial/pdfs/doe_building_energy_p
erformance_taxonomy.pdf] (020)
I'll look back at the Census spreadsheet and try to mash it up with some
other things, thanks for the link. (021)
Deborah (022)
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Albert
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology (026)
Deborah, et al., (027)
I offer the following (perhaps cursory) info, FYI/FWIW, concerning your
statement "...a part name or number ... that could be mapped to a generic
form for broader exchange purposes" and the general interest in the
"facilities domain." (028)
North American Industry Classification System (NAICS)
http://www.census.gov/eos/www/naics/
"It was developed jointly by the U.S. Economic Classification Policy
Committee (ECPC), Statistics Canada, and Mexico's Instituto Nacional de
Estadistica y Geografia, to allow for a high level of comparability in
business statistics among the North American countries."
I wish this taxonomy was available in OWL or other format; alas, it is
only(?) available as a spreadsheet:
http://www.census.gov/eos/www/naics/reference_files_tools/2012/2012_NAICS_St
ructure.xls (029)
Concerning "Dining and Drinking Spaces", try entering the keyword "dining"
into the search text box in the upper left for "2012 NAICS Search".
The last code in the list retrieved is "722511 Full-Service Restaurants".
Click on that link. Not responsible for hunger pangs that might result ;-) (030)
B/R,
Paul Pope, Ph.D.
Los Alamos National Laboratory (031)
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology (032)
Somewhere in this discussion is a problem that is the essence of what has
been holding up progress in the facilities domain. (033)
There are ways to publish technical requirements or test for conformance
online for free, and pay (even substantially) to participate in the working
groups or have voting privileges. For example OGC, W3C. (034)
I can even see being able to own a part name or number within a larger
communication machine that could be mapped to a generic form for broader
exchange purposes. For example "13-57 13 15 Dining and Drinking Spaces"
versus "The Sand Bar and Grille" (035)
Depending on the domain, or need for cross disciplinary discussion, many on
the IP-protected side have no interest in supporting, or will even actively
stops progress, on a common model. There is also the problem of failed
common models that do not work, will not accommodate different object
definitions - from software to software or industry model to industry model
- without loss of data or functionality. Bentley systems has stepped forward
in this white
paper<http://ftp2.bentley.com/dist/collateral/docs/bentley_institute/White_p
aper_IFC.pdf> on the IFC model to say actually - the emperor has no clothes
on. See pages 6 and 7 "Round Tripping" (036)
For some reason I think ontologies might be a way these IP-With-Open
problems might be fixed but maybe I am wrong or wishing for too much. (037)
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Specifications and Research (038)
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology (042)
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Peter R. Benson
<Peter.Benson@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Peter.Benson@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Deborah, IP is a real issue. We designed the eOTD to try to resolve some of
these issues. In a dictionary the IP resides in the representation but also
in the identifiers or codes as these are always copyright. (043)
That is not entirely clear; see e.g. SOUTHCO, INC v. KANEBRIDGE
CORPORATION ( http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/021243pe.pdf ), where
part numbers were found to be not protected (but see also how Alito takes
care to distinguish Delta Dental ) (044)
Simon (045)
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