Hi Paul (01)
A few years ago I dug into the NAICS codes and there is already a nice overlap. (02)
The OmniClass Services table maps over to these codes, see
[http://www.nationalbimstandard.org/nbims-us-v2/pdf/NBIMS-US2_c2.8.pdf] (03)
OmniClass and NAICS sit right next to each other (alphabetically!) on the DoD
Products and Services Report in the Business Enterprise Architecture 8.1, see
[http://dcmo.defense.gov/products-and-services/business-enterprise-architecture/8.1/delta/term.htm]
however please note 10 is current, see
[http://dcmo.defense.gov/products-and-services/business-enterprise-architecture/10.0/classic/index.htm] (04)
The Department of Energy DOE Building Energy Performance (BEP) Taxonomy also
includes both OmniClass and NAICS, see
[http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial/pdfs/doe_building_energy_performance_taxonomy.pdf] (05)
I'll look back at the Census spreadsheet and try to mash it up with some other
things, thanks for the link. (06)
Deborah (07)
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Deborah, et al., (012)
I offer the following (perhaps cursory) info, FYI/FWIW, concerning your
statement "...a part name or number ... that could be mapped to a generic form
for broader exchange purposes" and the general interest in the "facilities
domain." (013)
North American Industry Classification System (NAICS)
http://www.census.gov/eos/www/naics/
"It was developed jointly by the U.S. Economic Classification Policy Committee
(ECPC), Statistics Canada, and Mexico's Instituto Nacional de Estadistica y
Geografia, to allow for a high level of comparability in business statistics
among the North American countries."
I wish this taxonomy was available in OWL or other format; alas, it is only(?)
available as a spreadsheet:
http://www.census.gov/eos/www/naics/reference_files_tools/2012/2012_NAICS_Structure.xls (014)
Concerning "Dining and Drinking Spaces", try entering the keyword "dining" into
the search text box in the upper left for "2012 NAICS Search".
The last code in the list retrieved is "722511 Full-Service Restaurants".
Click on that link. Not responsible for hunger pangs that might result ;-) (015)
B/R,
Paul Pope, Ph.D.
Los Alamos National Laboratory (016)
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Somewhere in this discussion is a problem that is the essence of what has been
holding up progress in the facilities domain. (018)
There are ways to publish technical requirements or test for conformance online
for free, and pay (even substantially) to participate in the working groups or
have voting privileges. For example OGC, W3C. (019)
I can even see being able to own a part name or number within a larger
communication machine that could be mapped to a generic form for broader
exchange purposes. For example "13-57 13 15 Dining and Drinking Spaces" versus
"The Sand Bar and Grille" (020)
Depending on the domain, or need for cross disciplinary discussion, many on the
IP-protected side have no interest in supporting, or will even actively stops
progress, on a common model. There is also the problem of failed common models
that do not work, will not accommodate different object definitions - from
software to software or industry model to industry model - without loss of data
or functionality. Bentley systems has stepped forward in this white
paper<http://ftp2.bentley.com/dist/collateral/docs/bentley_institute/White_paper_IFC.pdf>
on the IFC model to say actually - the emperor has no clothes on. See pages 6
and 7 "Round Tripping" (021)
For some reason I think ontologies might be a way these IP-With-Open problems
might be fixed but maybe I am wrong or wishing for too much. (022)
DEBORAH MACPHERSON
Specifications and Research (023)
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Peter R. Benson
<Peter.Benson@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Peter.Benson@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Deborah, IP is a real issue. We designed the eOTD to try to resolve some of
these issues. In a dictionary the IP resides in the representation but also in
the identifiers or codes as these are always copyright. (028)
That is not entirely clear; see e.g. SOUTHCO, INC v. KANEBRIDGE CORPORATION (
http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/021243pe.pdf ), where part numbers were
found to be not protected (but see also how Alito takes care to distinguish
Delta Dental ) (029)
Simon (030)
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