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Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge

To: Cory Casanave <cory-c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ontology Summit 2012 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: Paul Brown <pbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:57:34 +0000
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A likely scenario drawn from this discussion is one in which one party views 
the marriage as the event while another party views the marriage as the state. 
They are never going to agree on a common definition, because each has its own 
concept. Yet these two concepts are definitely related: One marks the point of 
state transition that is part of the other's model.    (01)

I think this is illustrative of situations (pardon the double entendre) we are 
going to encounter in the real world!    (02)

                                -- PCB    (03)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Cory Casanave [mailto:cory-c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:17 AM
To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
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Subject: RE: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge    (08)

I would agree - there are 2 concepts under the label "Marriage", a situation 
and an event. The intent of the example in the web page is the situation but 
you may well also represent the event for extra credit!
-Cory    (09)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hans Polzer
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:55 PM
> To: 'Ontology Summit 2012 discussion'
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge
> 
> Isn't it both? Marriage is both a state transition (the rite that signals the
> transition to a married state from an unmarried state), and a steady state
> condition after the state transition occurs (as in "their marriage has lasted 
>for
> 50 years"). The word "wedding" is often used to distinguish between the state
> transition and the steady state condition, denoting the former but not the
> latter (although common usage isn't always precise on this point, as  in
> "wedded bliss").
> 
> Hans
> 
> Hans
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Ring
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44 PM
> To: doug@xxxxxxxxxx; Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] First Model Bench Challenge
> 
> ??
> Marriage is a situation in which a couple BECOMES married.") On Apr 30,
> 2012, at 1:39 PM, doug foxvog wrote:
> 
> > Marriage is a situation in which a couple is married.")
> 
> 
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