Re: [ontology-summit] System Components

[Jack Ring <jring7@xxxxxxxxx>]

Matt,

You should become a member of the INCOSE SysSciWG 

The current concept maps can be seen at 

https://sites.google.com/site/syssciwg/projects/unified-ontology-of-science-systems

specifically

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxzeXNzY2l3Z3xneDoyMmRlYjg1ZmQ1ZTdmNTZh

If you have the CMap software you can access the source and edit the maps to suit.

Why, having established "as expressed" would you introduce "as realized" to further complicate the reader's ladder of inference? What is the benefit? Remember, we are striving for human interoperability, not pedagogy.

If an ontology is a collection of mapped concepts then a collection of mapped ontologies must be a reinvention of the pernicious notion of System of Systems. 

I, too, am not sure ontology can do it all but the sooner we find out the sooner we can solicit ontologists to get on with devising the semiotic transformer that systemists really need. 

On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Matthew K. Hettinger wrote:

@Jack,


I would like to look at your concept map, because as you know, I've done a lot of work mapping semiotics to systemics (and vice versa).
Can you give me the number of the issue in which it was sent?

I would rephrase "the difference between a model of X as expressed in a language vs. the actual X as expressed
in technology(ies)" by  .............. the actual/concrete X as *realized* in technologies.

"How shall an ontology indicate multiple interpretants and the conditions for which path to take?"

Probably not a single ontology, but a collection of mapped ontologies. One also needs to take into consideration the interpreter, the interpretations, made by the interpreter, the context in which the interpreters are embedded in, the contexts in which the languages
are embedded in, and the contexts in which the world if interest is embedded in. I'm not sure ontology can do it all
itself.

Matt

-- 
Matthew K. Hettinger

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