Ali's making a good distinction.
In development projects, we divide
Architecture (Design), Engineering and Construction, for infrastructure and
buildings, utilities and industrial plants.
We have different types of design,
from architectural to industrial; engineering, from auronautics to rocketry; and
construction, from line assembly to spaceship building.
As an example, take a landfill. Most
of them neither designed, nor engineered, with rather trivial forms of waste
management, harming the natural and urban environments, groundwater, soil, air,
Another example, shanty towns occupied by
a billion and more people. There are no urban planning and design, engineering,
and standard building practice, resulting in almost total absence of any
infrastructure and streets, but mostly vermins, crimes and
From other side, there are brand new
masterplanned cities on greenfield sites with intelligently designed, engineered
and constructed urban environments, transportation networks, utilities, energy
networks, ICT networks, buildings, and facilities.
First Conception, Planning and Design,
with designed systems, then Engineering, with engineered systems, finally,
Building, Production, or Fabrication, with the constructed systems, as the built
environment, concluded with Management.
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A quick point,
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
... there is a distinction between systems in general
engineered systems. Engineered systems are those that are the result
some systems engineering process, whereas there are certainly systems
arise naturally, and were not engineered for a purpose - at least
Many aspects of urban planning or other design work in large scale
systems aren't necessarily the result of an explicit systems engineering
process. From what I could tell, engineered was being used in the looser sense
of something done with skill. I would suggest perhaps large-scale designed
systems, or John's suggestion. I'll repeat in the other list as well.
Designed systems seems more apt than the more technical engineered
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