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To: "'Ontology Summit 2012'" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Matthew West" <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:48:10 -0000
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Dear John,    (01)

> I realize that a large number of messages have gone back and forth
> about the word 'engineered'.  But would anybody who reads the
> announcement of the ontology summit need to know any of that?
> 
> > Track 2 will focus on the ontology of large-scale engineered systems.
> 
> Wouldn't it be simpler just to drop the word 'engineered'?    (02)

Not really my choice of words. The titles were settled before I offered to
be a champion. However, there is a distinction between systems in general
and engineered systems. Engineered systems are those that are the result of
some systems engineering process, whereas there are certainly systems that
arise naturally, and were not engineered for a purpose - at least not by
humans.    (03)

If there was a strong interest expressed in systems that are wider than
engineered systems, I would be happy to broaden the track to accommodate
them. On the other hand, engineered systems are generally within my
competence, whereas a broader view of systems would not be, and I'd rather
not be drawing conclusions about systems in general when they really only
applied to engineered systems.    (04)

So I suggest we await an interest and expertise in non-engineered systems
before making changes.    (05)

Regards    (06)

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> 
> Dear Matthew,
> 
> I realize that a large number of messages have gone back and forth
> about the word 'engineered'.  But would anybody who reads the
> announcement of the ontology summit need to know any of that?
> 
> > Track 2 will focus on the ontology of large-scale engineered systems.
> 
> Wouldn't it be simpler just to drop the word 'engineered'?
> 
> Is anything gained by that word, other than a puzzled look
> on somebody's face who wonders what meaning, if any, that word
> might contribute?
> 
> John
> 
> 
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