Having read through the thread, at last, I acknowledge that we are weak
in terms of representing the non-owl semantic tools and systems. I would
be happy to see more FOL and Common Logic apps or plug-ins. (01)
Cheers,
Rex (02)
On 4/4/11 11:03 AM, Matthew West wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> I was not explicit enough.
>
>> MW
>>> Whilst I agree that the use of deep semantics has been neglected in
>> this
>>> summit, I do not think that your characterisation of terminology
>> work, LOD,
>>> and other shallow semantics as "low hanging fruits" is accurate. I
>> think a
>>> more accurate characterisation would be that these are most of all
>> the fruit
>>> there are, but that there are also some exotic fruit that use deep
>>> semantics.
> JS
>> Matthew and Mike are right about what is being done with the methods
>> available for the Semantic Web, but that is my major criticism of
>> the Semantic Web: it uses only a tiny fraction of the technology
>> that was developed for AI, NLP, *and* commercial IT.
> MW: I was picking up on Peter's statement, but also intending to include not
> just SW technologies, but also SQL based systems, in particular where
> relatively simple things like identity management through things like Master
> Data Management are concerned in support of data integration.
>> Matthew called the AI technology other than OWL "exotic", but
>> that is only true if you define the Semantic Web as "mainstream".
>> However, we would not need this Ontology Summit if the SW were
>> truly mainstream.
> MW: The problems with analogy... My main point was that the use of
> inferencing engines is relatively rare compared to all the SQL data that
> needs to be integrated. I certainly don't count OWL as mainstream yet.
>
>> I do agree with Matthew that shallow semantics and LOD are
>> "low hanging fruit" for some kinds of applications. But those
>> are new applications that are very different from traditional IT.
>>
> ...
>> SQL is not exotic, it is very low-hanging fruit, it is intimately
>> integrated with mainstream IT, and it runs many more commercial
>> web sites than OWL. If anybody asked me which would survive
>> longer -- SQL or OWL -- I would not bet on OWL.
> MW: And it is what I was thinking of, even if I did not get the words right.
> (I think it was Yogi Bera who was quoted as saying "Why do they always print
> what I say, rather than what I mean!")
>
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>
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