> [PDM] I dont want to go on about this unnecessarily, ... (01)
[ppy] I concur. (02)
> [PDM] but its worth rectifying miscronstured beliefs
> when we get the chance! (03)
[ppy] ..ok, but some other time (when I am not as busy) ... and offline.
Anyhow, beliefs are beliefs ... we can all keep our own. (04)
Cheers. =ppy
-- (05)
On 7/22/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Peter for filling me in
>
> I dont want to go on about this unnecessarily, but its worth rectifying
> miscronstured beliefs when we get the chance!
> Please help me here.
>
> The Onto Taxo project vision may be great and long term, and beyond the
> scope of my immediate interest
> Yet when I posted my suggestion/request/requirement about the formation of a
> glossary (which I need 4 weeks ago and could not find anyehwere, so I posted
> this community, and I still need today, and I will need in a few weeks time)
> Denise embraced the suggestion, then the conversation moved to the
> OntoTaxo list and took the current form (currently on halt due to a
> combination of reasons isted below)
>
> So, I do believe that my request/post triggered some response/energy/effort
> that was then directed towards the advancement of the OntoTaxo project,
> under the assumption, I believe, that this project responds to the request
> 'shall we have a glossary of terms" and 'how do we go about it?' If not, I
> can always move the conversatio back on the other list....
>
> Therefore my interest in pursuing this matter further here, and my request
> to be kept in the loop. \
> I have no problem in starting a separate effort , as long as (as you
> suggest) duplication is avoided
> So I am waiting to hear what's being discussed behind the public curtains...
>
>
> thanks a lot for helping clarifying the situation
> PDM
>
>
>
>
> On 7/22/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paola,
> >
> > > [PDM] If you remember, a while back a posted a request for a glossary,
> ...
> >
> > [ppy] I still remember that vaguely. That was why I showed you the
> > SEARCH on our site. I believe I also suggested that, whether or not
> > you want to start a new initiative on it, it would be useful to find
> > out what Bob and Denise are up to, because there may be some overlaps.
> >
> > > [PDM] I believe I instigated this phase in this Onto Taxo project ...
> >
> > [ppy] if you are referring to something you have started at your end,
> > then, you'd know better. However, if you are referring to the recent
> > renewed effort on the OntologTaxoThesaurus project from Bob and
> > Denise, then I don't think the resumption was a result of your post
> > ... (therefore, your belief may possibly be misconstrued.)
> >
> > > [PDM] Also, as you well know. I cannot participate in the physical
> > > meetings in the Usa because of great distance, and scheduled
> > > metings because the time difference.
> >
> > [ppy] Whether or not you all want to be on the same team depends on a
> > lot of factors. I will let you and Bob/Denise work out the
> > disposition.
> >
> > Regards. =ppy
> > --
> >
> >
> > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi Peter
> > > Thanks a lot for the updates
> > >
> > > If you remember, a while back a posted a request for a glossary, how
> shall
> > > we go about it et etc - to which Denise replied enthusiastically. I
> posted
> > > the request because of various projects that I am working on, a glossary
> is
> > > a related step
> > > You then suggested that efforts were already underway, and it might be a
> > > good idea resuming work on the Onto Taxo Project - which I am happy to
> wait
> > > for but i would like to know what's happening.
> > >
> > > Denise started her excellent work and kept us well briefed about
> progress
> > > for the first few days. As you confirm, work has continued we just
> havent
> > > heard about it anymore. Thanks for informing me that it could be a
> > > combination of reasons,
> > >
> > > I am simply following up on that, and take the opportunity to make
> > > enquiries whether something for whatever reason is not shared on the
> > > list,Cause if that is, I think it is legitimate to ask 'what?' and
> 'why?' So
> > > that I know where I stand and plan for my work accordingly
> > >
> > > I think it's great to have 'project ownership' , as long as people who
> are
> > > interested can be part of the project processes, otherwise, there might
> be
> > > scope for starting separate projects...
> > >
> > > Also, as you well know. I cannot participate in the physical meetings in
> the
> > > Usa because of great distance, and scheduled metings because the time
> > > difference. this is why to me - and I believe I instigated this phase in
> > > this Onto Taxo project - is particularly important to have all thoughts
> on
> > > the list. Otherwise I feel that I am being deliberately kept in the dark
> for
> > > some reason.
> > >
> > > I really appreciate the opportunity of helping with this, just we'llhave
> to
> > > find a way
> > > of communicating (vacations and conferences notwithstanding!)
> > >
> > > Apologies, again, if the tone of my enquiry was hasty
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Keep up the good work folks
> > >
> > > pdm
> >
> >
> > > On 7/21/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PAola,
> > > >
> > > > It could be a combination of everything you mentioned and more. I can
> > > > confirm that things must have been happening since the last post ( I
> > > > even caught high level of activities of worldbank crawlers at our
> > > > servers.) I can assure you, though, that no team conferencing have
> > > > taken place yet ... because the next one is scheduled for 7/26, and
> > > > it's a few days away yet.
> > > >
> > > > If you having been tracking what's happening at Ontolog, you would
> > > > know that a bunch of us (Denise included) were trying to make a case
> > > > to Information and Records Managment folks the last few days (see:
> > > >
> > >
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid12SX
> > > ).
> > > >
> > > > Again, Ontolog is like going to the tavern after a day's work to have
> > > > a good conversation ... therefore, it would be odd to even consider
> > > > "putting pressure" on someone to come to the tavern, or to have them
> > > > make conversation.
> > > >
> > > > The TaxoThesaurus work has mainly been Bob and Denise' work, with a
> > > > few of us (other members) making comments when interim work products
> > > > come out. Therefore, it has not been like, say, OntologySummit2007,
> > > > where a online discourse is part of the program/deliverables.
> > > >
> > > > Regards. =ppy
> > > > --
> >
> >
> > > > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Sure Peter!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not expecting priority at all - it is just stopped suddenty,
> and I
> > > > > wonder if the work has just stopped happening because Denise got
> busy
> > > with
> > > > > other work (fair enough), or if things are happening and people are
> not
> > > > > discussing them on list, thats all. cause if it is the latter, then
> I'd
> > > > > like to know why...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thing is that I am writing a best practices case study on this, and
> I am
> > > > > stuck half way thru - even if it is work in progress, it would be
> nice
> > > to
> > > > > know where we stand . What I would not want to happen is that the
> > > > > information about this project is not coming thru for some
> unspecified
> > > > > reason..
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry if it sounds like I am putting pressure, I feel like I was
> having
> > > a
> > > > > bite of something nice and now I am left with the
> > > > > fork in mid air and my mouth open
> > > > >
> > > > > can you confirm that nothing has happened since the last post?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks -
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PDM
> >
> >
> > > > > On 7/21/07, peter.yim@xxxxxxxx <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Paola, ... that's what the 7/26 meeting is for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ontolog project work is volunteered work, and should therefore
> > > > > > accomodate its members' other priorities -- like their day jobs,
> for
> > > > > > example! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Members are being "generous" when they share their work and
> insights
> > > > > > ... we must remember that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Come to the 7/26 call or check the notes after that meeting to
> find
> > > out
> > > > > more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =ppy
> > > > > > --
> >
> >
> > > > > > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > yes! I have signed up for it - thanks
> > > > > > > but I would like to know what it is happening now!
> > > > > > > since Denise posted weeks ago a lot must have been happening?
> why
> > > did
> > > > > she
> > > > > > > stopped reporting to the list about the progress?
> > > > > > > I would like to know what is happening, and if there is
> something
> > > that
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > people know and not others,
> > > > > > > and why!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > > PDM
> >
> >
> > > > > > > On 7/21/07, peter.yim@xxxxxxxx < peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Paola, I thought you already knew that the next meeting of the
> > > team is
> > > > > > > > scheduled for 7/26. =ppy
> > > > > > > > --
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Peoples
> > > > > > > > > I am actually a little surprised by the silence... weren't
> we
> > > > > sharing
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > process of building this ontology together?
> > > > > > > > > i would very much like to partticipate, but all
> conversations
> > > ahve
> > > > > > > > stopped/
> > > > > > > > > what's happening? how can I work on this? are you just
> talking
> > > > > privately
> > > > > > > > > about things for some reason?
> > > > > > > > > please let me know, and kinldy share whats up, cause I am
> > > puzzled!
> > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Paola Di Maio
> > > > > > > > > School of IT
> > > > > > > > > www.mfu.ac.th
> > > > > > > > >
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