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Thanks Peter for filling me in
I dont want to go on about this unnecessarily, but its worth rectifying miscronstured beliefs when we get the chance!
Please help me here.
The Onto Taxo project vision may be great and long term, and beyond the scope of my immediate interest
Yet when I posted my suggestion/request/requirement about the formation of a glossary (which I need 4 weeks ago and could not find anyehwere, so I posted this community, and I still need today, and I will need in a few weeks time) Denise embraced the suggestion, then the conversation moved to the OntoTaxo list and took the current form (currently on halt due to a combination of reasons isted below)
So, I do believe that my request/post triggered some response/energy/effort that was then directed towards the advancement of the OntoTaxo project, under the assumption, I believe, that this project responds to the request 'shall we have a glossary of terms" and 'how do we go about it?' If not, I can always move the conversatio back on the other list....
Therefore my interest in pursuing this matter further here, and my request to be kept in the loop. \
I have no problem in starting a separate effort , as long as (as you suggest) duplication is avoided
So I am waiting to hear what's being discussed behind the public curtains...
thanks a lot for helping clarifying the situation
PDM
On 7/22/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Paola,
> [PDM] If you remember, a while back a posted a request for a glossary, ...
[ppy] I still remember that vaguely. That was why I showed you the
SEARCH on our site. I believe I also suggested that, whether or not
you want to start a new initiative on it, it would be useful to find
out what Bob and Denise are up to, because there may be some overlaps.
> [PDM] I believe I instigated this phase in this Onto Taxo project ...
[ppy] if you are referring to something you have started at your end,
then, you'd know better. However, if you are referring to the recent
renewed effort on the OntologTaxoThesaurus project from Bob and
Denise, then I don't think the resumption was a result of your post
... (therefore, your belief may possibly be misconstrued.)
> [PDM] Also, as you well know. I cannot participate in the physical
> meetings in the Usa because of great distance, and scheduled
> metings because the time difference.
[ppy] Whether or not you all want to be on the same team depends on a
lot of factors. I will let you and Bob/Denise work out the
disposition.
Regards. =ppy
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On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter
> Thanks a lot for the updates
>
> If you remember, a while back a posted a request for a glossary, how shall
> we go about it et etc - to which Denise replied enthusiastically. I posted
> the request because of various projects that I am working on, a glossary is
> a related step
> You then suggested that efforts were already underway, and it might be a
> good idea resuming work on the Onto Taxo Project - which I am happy to wait
> for but i would like to know what's happening.
>
> Denise started her excellent work and kept us well briefed about progress
> for the first few days. As you confirm, work has continued we just havent
> heard about it anymore. Thanks for informing me that it could be a
> combination of reasons,
>
> I am simply following up on that, and take the opportunity to make
> enquiries whether something for whatever reason is not shared on the
> list,Cause if that is, I think it is legitimate to ask 'what?' and 'why?' So
> that I know where I stand and plan for my work accordingly
>
> I think it's great to have 'project ownership' , as long as people who are
> interested can be part of the project processes, otherwise, there might be
> scope for starting separate projects...
>
> Also, as you well know. I cannot participate in the physical meetings in the
> Usa because of great distance, and scheduled metings because the time
> difference. this is why to me - and I believe I instigated this phase in
> this Onto Taxo project - is particularly important to have all thoughts on
> the list. Otherwise I feel that I am being deliberately kept in the dark for
> some reason.
>
> I really appreciate the opportunity of helping with this, just we'llhave to
> find a way
> of communicating (vacations and conferences notwithstanding!)
>
> Apologies, again, if the tone of my enquiry was hasty
> Thanks!
>
> Keep up the good work folks
>
> pdm
> On 7/21/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > PAola,
> >
> > It could be a combination of everything you mentioned and more. I can
> > confirm that things must have been happening since the last post ( I
> > even caught high level of activities of worldbank crawlers at our
> > servers.) I can assure you, though, that no team conferencing have
> > taken place yet ... because the next one is scheduled for 7/26, and
> > it's a few days away yet.
> >
> > If you having been tracking what's happening at Ontolog, you would
> > know that a bunch of us (Denise included) were trying to make a case
> > to Information and Records Managment folks the last few days (see:
> >
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid12SX
> ).
> >
> > Again, Ontolog is like going to the tavern after a day's work to have
> > a good conversation ... therefore, it would be odd to even consider
> > "putting pressure" on someone to come to the tavern, or to have them
> > make conversation.
> >
> > The TaxoThesaurus work has mainly been Bob and Denise' work, with a
> > few of us (other members) making comments when interim work products
> > come out. Therefore, it has not been like, say, OntologySummit2007,
> > where a online discourse is part of the program/deliverables.
> >
> > Regards. =ppy
> > --
> > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
<paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Sure Peter!
> > >
> > > I am not expecting priority at all - it is just stopped suddenty, and I
> > > wonder if the work has just stopped happening because Denise got busy
> with
> > > other work (fair enough), or if things are happening and people are not
> > > discussing them on list, thats all. cause if it is the latter, then I'd
> > > like to know why...
> > >
> > > Thing is that I am writing a best practices case study on this, and I am
> > > stuck half way thru - even if it is work in progress, it would be nice
> to
> > > know where we stand . What I would not want to happen is that the
> > > information about this project is not coming thru for some unspecified
> > > reason..
> > >
> > > sorry if it sounds like I am putting pressure, I feel like I was having
> a
> > > bite of something nice and now I am left with the
> > > fork in mid air and my mouth open
> > >
> > > can you confirm that nothing has happened since the last post?
> > >
> > > thanks -
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > PDM
> > > On 7/21/07, peter.yim@xxxxxxxx <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Paola, ... that's what the 7/26 meeting is for.
> > > >
> > > > Ontolog project work is volunteered work, and should therefore
> > > > accomodate its members' other priorities -- like their day jobs, for
> > > > example! :)
> > > >
> > > > Members are being "generous" when they share their work and insights
> > > > ... we must remember that.
> > > >
> > > > Come to the 7/26 call or check the notes after that meeting to find
> out
> > > more.
> > > >
> > > > =ppy
> > > > --
> > > > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
<paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > yes! I have signed up for it - thanks
> > > > > but I would like to know what it is happening now!
> > > > > since Denise posted weeks ago a lot must have been happening? why
> did
> > > she
> > > > > stopped reporting to the list about the progress?
> > > > > I would like to know what is happening, and if there is something
> that
> > > some
> > > > > people know and not others,
> > > > > and why!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks!
> > > > > PDM
> > > > > On 7/21/07, peter.yim@xxxxxxxx < peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paola, I thought you already knew that the next meeting of the
> team is
> > > > > > scheduled for 7/26. =ppy
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > On 7/21/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
<paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > Peoples
> > > > > > > I am actually a little surprised by the silence... weren't we
> > > sharing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > process of building this ontology together?
> > > > > > > i would very much like to partticipate, but all conversations
> ahve
> > > > > > stopped/
> > > > > > > what's happening? how can I work on this? are you just talking
> > > privately
> > > > > > > about things for some reason?
> > > > > > > please let me know, and kinldy share whats up, cause I am
> puzzled!
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Paola Di Maio
> > > > > > > School of IT
> > > > > > > www.mfu.ac.th
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