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Re: [ontolog-forum] Marvin Minsky's original memo on frames

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From: Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:13:43 +0200
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Hello John,    (01)

I have read a good part of the paper and now wonder how Minsky's frames are
different from the much loved and despised "primitives" in this forum.    (02)

The postulate of a mechanism for the creation of new frames seems to be the 
crucial difference.    (03)

The proof that universal intelligence is possible lives all over the planet
but so far AI has failed to reproduce that with computation.    (04)

Hearing the same ideas over and over is boring so we have to ask what purposes
this forum serves:    (05)

-To build a universal/strong AI
-To build systems using ontologies serving more narrow purposes
-To educate
-To entertain    (06)

I guess no one will seriously propose the first option. Much of what I see
seems to fall into the last two categories and I am happy with that as long
as I am occasionally entertained or learn new things.    (07)

If I see that a thread takes a direction I have seen several times before,
I simply skip the messages of that thread. But if the same people debate the
same problems over and over, only newcomers really profit from that.    (08)

A FAQ or a collections of documents / former discussions would be a good idea
but is not so intriguing to newcomers as an ongoing discussion. How many 
newcomers does this forum have per month? I guess not enough to warrant the
current state of repetition (with new aspects no doubt added every time but
increasingly difficult to find).    (09)

Regards,    (010)

Michael Brunnbauer    (011)

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