John, (01)
I really like your definition of a do-gooder, but
Ali H. pointed out that this conversation is way
off-topic (bless Pat H.'s little heart), so if we
continue this conversation, I suggest we do it
off-line. (02)
-Rich (03)
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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Rich, (06)
I don't blame you for any complaint. But I think
you are a starry-eyed
idealist who is blinded by ideas instead of facts. (07)
RC
>> it's about force levied by governments against
free markets. (08)
JFS
> I agree. And if you look who's pulling the
strings behind
> the curtains, it's the corporations. (09)
RC
> Only with collusion from the govt. Lobbyists
"give" money to
> their favorite legislators (the ones who vote
the way their
> clients say) to help them get elected. (010)
Didn't you notice the word 'lobbyist'? Guess who
pays for them?
Didn't you notice the word 'elected'? Guess who
votes? (011)
If you want to blame anybody, blame the voters.
If you want to
know who is a voter, look in the mirror. (012)
People fought and died to get that vote 200+ years
ago. This year
is the 50th anniversary of the fighting and dying
in Alabama and
Mississippi by people who wanted to vote and by
other people who
wanted to stop them from getting the right to
vote. (013)
People on both sides of that fight recognized that
the power to vote
is enormous -- at least in a country that isn't
(yet) totally corrupt. (014)
RC
> My father's favorite (bless his departed soul)
is what he called
> Cooper's law: "people are no damn good!" (015)
There's a lot of truth to that, but the motto on
the other side of
the coin is also true: "People never consider
themselves to be evil." (016)
Unfortunately, even the "do-gooders" tend to do a
lot of evil because
they don't fully understand all the implications
of their actions.
But *nobody* can understand *all* the
implications. (017)
Every organization of any kind is made up of
people. The more people
in it, the greater its power for good and for
evil. What they call
the organization is irrelevant: government,
business, religion, mafia,
charity, mob, etc. Fundamentally, they're all the
same. They're just
a way of magnifying the power of whoever is in
charge. (018)
Civilization depends on these organizations.
There is no way to get
rid of them. Another starry-eyed idealist, Karl
Marx, thought that
if you change the way people think, you don't need
government. But
that idea failed miserably. (019)
Another idealist with a bit more common sense was
Jesus Christ.
He admitted that you need to give the gov't its
denarius. If you
create a power vacuum, you get the Soviet Union
when some criminal
takes over. Or you get Somalia or Syria when the
criminals keep
fighting forever. (020)
John (021)
PS: My definition of 'criminal' is a do-gooder
who gets power
and stays in power too long. Power corrupts. (022)
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