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Re: [ontolog-forum] Objectivist Context vs. Cognitive Science

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From: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:38:15 -0700
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John, you said
 Engineers know that Newtonian mechanics is
not as precise as quantum mechanics or relativity.

We really think alike:
1) I am an engineer.
2) The first draft of my email to you
suggested that we were involved in
modeling the human mind,
and we could think of our situation as if
"Objectivist Context" was Newtonian Mechanics
and "Cognitive Science" was Relativity and
Quantum Mechanics.

I deleted that from my email because I thought
it would make you even more aggravated with me.

If you have a Cognitive Science model,
I'll give you an mKR representation of it.
Dick McCullough
Context Knowledge Systems
mKR/mKE tutorial

> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:10:21 -0400
> From: sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: kr-language@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rslatimer@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Objectivist Context vs. Cognitive Science
>
> Dick,
>
> The whole idea of the "vs" is misguided. Any branch of science,
> engineering, or philosophy that addresses aspects of cognition is
> part of cognitive science.
>
> Unlike religion, no science of any kind has a dogma. The "laws" of any
> science are always *fallible*. They are the best tested approximations
> at any particular time. And emphasize the word *tested*.
>
> Unlike science, engineering adds the limitations of deadlines, budgets,
> and available resources. Engineers know that Newtonian mechanics is
> not as precise as quantum mechanics or relativity. But they also know
> the conditions when Newtonian mechanics is adequate for the job.
>
> > Would you tell me if your knowledge of cognitive science
> > contradicts the relations that I have described between
> > existent
> > space percept
> > time concept
> > view proposition
> > knowledge
>
> I'm sure that you can find some aspects of some theories by some people
> who work in some branch of cognitive science that are similar to some
> of your statements.
>
> But I have my own deadlines, budgets, and available resources.
> I'm skeptical about your notation and theory. So far, I haven't
> seen anything that makes me want to devote any time to it. The
> more you talk about it, the lower my opinion of it.
>
> As I said before, come back when you have demonstrated that you can
> translate every sentence in one page of whatever text you choose
> from English to your notation -- *and* somebody who doesn't know
> the original can translate it back to a good approximation.
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>
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