Re: [ontolog-forum] Body Parts and Early-Learned Verbs

[Victor Amorim dos Santos <victor.amsantos@xxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe I can help in this case (an formal ontology). I work with a unified foundation ontology (Guizzardi's thesis). We can make models and test them to proof consistency. We have done a transformation to owl too. I think it can help you to create programs to use your ontology.

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Victor Amorim
Bacharel em Sistemas de Informação - IFES
Mestrado em Informática - UFES

Hi Ray,

The BMM is a good start, but what I would want to see is a formal ontology (i.e. some formal representation of concepts), and that this ontology be grounded in referenced academic work.

I have some familiarity with the OMG's BMM but would like to look at it more closely to see how well the concepts are grounded in prior art such as legal theory and Searle's social constructs. They may have done this, but technical standards are not always known for referencing prior art, I'm sorry to say. Maybe BMM is an exception to this.

Also I do think that concepts need to be abstracted to their most general level for them to represent useful semantic building blocks. So for example BMM defines "Goal" in a very business-specific way, without defining a more abstract concept of goal, of which the goal of a business would be one such. That's the sort of thing that would emerge from a more ontological treatment of the concepts that exist in BMM I think.

Mike

On 03/09/2013 23:57, Ray Martin wrote:

Mr. Bennett and all,

Would you consider BMM (Business Motivation Model) by OMG as a starting point for the considerations of your paragraphs? Or are you envisioning something entirely different?

Thanx,

Ray

On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It seems to me that for ontologies that are relevant to businesses, there must be a similar but separate grounding requirement, to that of a child or other mammal.

If one can identify the first, early arm and leg movements of the corporation, the rest would presumably follow from there. This would be things like Searle's social constructs (leading on into commitments, agreements, contracts, transactions etc.), the basic concepts of double-entry book-keeping (profit, loss, asset, liability), and so on. This would form the basic vocabulary, the basic geometry if you will, from which other more complex concepts are derived, and which are relevant in perceivign the semantics of things within the business's environment (buildings, shipping, payment systems etc.).

Mike

On 03/09/2013 13:40, Sandro Rama Fiorini wrote:

Hello all!

Linda Smith's work in developmental psychology is quite interesting to ontologists. Her research in the development of whole/part recognition in children is particularly intriguing.

Sowa said:

This study is one of many that show how the semantics of natural
language is grounded in the neural mechanisms of perception and action.

Isn't that what the symbol grounding problem is all about?

When I try to use ontologies to do something useful in a computer a frequently have to overcome the problem of converting data patterns into symbols and symbols into actions. There is still relatively little research in how to bridge this semantic gap, if you considering how important it is.

best,
Sandro Rama Fiorini
  Phd Candidate
 Institute of Informatics
 Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul (UFRGS)
 Brazil
 Website: www.inf.ufrgs.br/~srfiorini

 
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