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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontologies vs. Web Ontologies

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From: "doug foxvog" <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:09:46 -0400
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On Wed, October 24, 2012 20:53, Hans Polzer wrote:
> Good points, Doug and David. I would add that in addition to the fact that
> context and differing perspectives on a given context by participating
> "agents" affect the interpretation of these mental constructs,
> institutional and operational contexts and assumed scope boundaries
> associated with those
> contexts affect the interpretation by participating agents as well. Much
> of the "dark web" exists inside specific institutional domains (i.e.
> "intranets"), and much discourse on the open internet also makes specific
> institutional context and scope assumptions (e.g., relevant language,
> naming conventions, postal codes, addresses, currencies, etc.).    (01)

Agreed.    (02)

Such contexts are a big trouble with the idea of the Semantic Web --
especially when searches bring back triples stripped of their contexts.    (03)

> Unfortunately, we humans are good at "sensing" such contexts implicitly,    (04)

Sounds fortunate to me.  8)#    (05)

> and find it cumbersome to be explicit about such contexts and scope
> assumptions - until they bite us.    (06)

As long as the reasoner encodes the source of some information, it can
define a context for that source, from which the information can inherit.
Such a reasoner would be "good at 'sensing' such contexts implicitly,"
although not at determining the assumptions in the context.  As the
reasoner determines more about the source or information set,
it can add statements (assumptions) and scope to the context and link
it with other contexts.    (07)

-- doug foxvog    (08)

> Hans
>
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 1:48 PM David Eddy wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:39 PM, doug foxvog wrote:    (09)

> > > Nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, prepositions, etc. are mental
> > > constructs, parts of languages.
> > > They may refer to things in the physical world (or not)
> > > but they are not part of the physical world.    (010)

> > AND-surprise, surprise-such constructs do NOT have to be used
> > "correctly." (Whatever "correctly" means.)    (011)

> > I will not even bother commenting on the "universality" of such
> > constructs.    (012)

> > ____________________________
> > > David Eddy
> > Babson Park, MA    (013)

> > deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx    (014)



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