Dear John,
You wrote below:
If we want to move beyond
discussions, we will have to show how we can solve real problems. But
that requires us to analyze real problems.
Where can we find some
actual examples of those messy problems that the owners would let us examine in
public?
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-Rich
John
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F. Sowa
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:58 PM
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Some
Grand Challenge proposal ironies
On 10/26/2011 5:03 PM, Cory Casanave wrote:
> An area of interest to me and many of our clients
is solving
> the information federation problem.
That is indeed a very important problem. But
people have been talking
about that problem since the 1970s. That problem
has many very thorny
issues. But most of the so-called "use
cases" abstract away all the
thorns by stating some little toy problems.
> Federated data is inherently distributed,
uncoordinated, messy and
> conflicting - yet there is value in leveraging
these disparate data
> resources in a more unified way
I agree. I realize that dealing with a full
scale problem that some
large corporation really needs to solve is very
difficult. But you
can't solve a problem that is "inherently
distributed, uncoordinated,
messy and conflicting" by just looking at little
snippets.
Unfortunately, anybody who has large amounts of messy
data will
usually be reluctant to release it to public scrutiny
because it
inevitably contains trade secrets or other
confidential material.
> Discussions of this problem that involve, for
example, the OWL,
> Linked Data and Common Logic communities result
in theoretical
> and sometimes religious wars that can and have
frightened
> potential consumers of the technology away.
If we want to move beyond discussions, we will have to
show how
we can solve real problems. But that requires us
to analyze
real problems.
Where can we find some actual examples of those messy
problems
that the owners would let us examine in public?
John
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