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From: "Cecil O. Lynch, MD, MS" <clynch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:27:12 -0800
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Pavithra,

 

I agree with John and challenge you to build a useful, shareable ontology without a foundation of well defined and structured terminology.

This is part of a diagram  that I have used to show that foundation and you cannot leave out any part of these components and end up with an ontology that you can do sound reasoning across, in my opinion.

 

 

Cecil

 

From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pavithra
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2010 8:58 AM
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard

 

Dr. Sowa,

I beg to disagree.

Termonilogy alone does not help with computerization.   You may call a "brain" a "brain" that is not going to automate the brain!   

What is a brain ?  How does it work?  Work are the components?  how to they interrelate? etc, etc..  are the things that need for automation.  Ontology would provides that.

So folks, give your brain a little break and enjoy the holidays.  Before all systems become word processors!

Pavithra

--- On Sat, 12/25/10, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 11:32 AM

Folks,

Many cogent comments have been made in this thread. Instead
of commenting on each one, I'd like to make one general
observation that has two basic implications:

Observation:

For many applications, a good terminology is far more valuable
than a half-baked (or even a totally baked) ontology.

Implications:

Many of the disagreements on this list can be resolved by the
observation that the useful resources not based on a formal logic
should be called terminologies or lexical resources (e.g., WordNet).

In fact, a large number of things implemented in so-called ontology
languages should really be called terminologies, since they use few or
none of the logical operators and reasoning methods of those languages.

John

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