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Alex ,
I like your point but how can you distinquish "programmers" and "end
users" epecially if they are "both in one" )
If it was true
we would have Simple
Math and Simple OWL for academics and presidents )
Regards
Yuri
P.S. Many of us use English as a second language
(for ex. my native is Russin), so I am sorry if it looks like a joke
;)
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Breaking News: Googlesupports GoodRelations
Surely there is a distinction to be made between what is
modeled and what it is modeled in. Changing the syntax or the presentation is
not the same as changing the content of the model, and in the end a model is
either a model of something in the problem domain or a model of a (usually
proposed) solution.
Mike
On 08/11/2010 08:14, Alex Shkotin
wrote:
John,
as XML, RDF are data models and ways for
information coding, it is not for users but for programmers.
XML is
accepted by programmers for their needs.
Internal structure of SW is a
programmers deal.
We have 5(!) syntaxes for OWL 2. I think none of
them for end user.
These are for a new kind of programmers: knowledge
coders;-)
And as usual for end user we need forms to fulfill, manage
and query knowledge.
It seems one additional "user interface" we may
get now is a very simple CNL.
We get it while verbalizing RDB data, for
ex. And for me it is better than "metadata", as end user can write
CNL.
We have know spellcheckers working background when we type.
It would be crucial step forward for the web to have a background CNL
checker the user accept.
Not everybody but who'd like to type
knowledge;-)
Even for knowledge interchange it may be better to have
CNL.
Do we need a standard for CNL?
Alex
2010/11/7 John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Kingsley,
> Even if Martin only published GoodRelations in RDF/XML
format,
> the conceptual schema isn't inextricably to RDF
formats.
Yes. That's the point I was trying to
emphasize.
Nobody develops alternatives to good notations.
The fact that there
are so many variations is a sign that the
edict to make the XML
serialization the normative version was a
disaster.
People constantly say "Oh, you don't have to use it if
you don't
like it." But making the XML serialization the
normative version
is a terrible example of a premature optimization in
favor of the
semantically least important and most trivial
aspect.
The first step toward a rational reconstruction of the
Semantic Web
is to demote the XML serialization of the languages to a
legacy
status. Then sponsor a design competition for better
alternatives.
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