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Re: [ontolog-forum] Sharing and Integrating Ontologies

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From: "doug foxvog" <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:55:59 -0400 (EDT)
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On Wed, September 29, 2010 10:28, Rick Murphy said:
> On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 08:38 -0400, John F. Sowa wrote:
>> But it's convenient to have a pronounceable word.  Therefore, an
>> technical term, such as 'entity', would have fewer distractions than
>> a more common word like 'being'.    (01)

> Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised with the clarity provided by Wordnet
> on this issue. Wordnet defines entity as "that which is perceived or
> known to have its own distinct existence." Thing is an entity that is
> not named, a hyponym of entity and within the semantic field of entity.    (02)

Wordnet uses "entity" as a root synset, with no hypernym.  Its hyponyms
include lots of things which don't have their own existence.    (03)

WordNet lists a dozen synsets for "thing": "an action", "an event", "an
artifact","a statement", "any attribute or quality", "a feeling", "a
special objective",  "a special situation", "a special abstraction", "a
persistent feeling...", as well as an entity that either "separate and
self-contained" or "is not named".  This seems more like they are
describing not different meanings of the word, but different categories
that instances of thing may fall into.    (04)

>> > BTW - I tried this experiment tonight as did my daughter.
>> > With your eyes
>> > closed, try to see the number 1. Can you actually see it,
>> > or can you only imagine it ?
> ...
> The purpose of my experiment is to determine whether the brain can
> produce signs. At least in the case of my daughter and me, we can't see
> the number 1 with our eyes closed, we only imagine it. By imagine I mean
> describe the shape.    (05)

It seems you are referring to the NUMERAL 1, not the NUMBER.  You are
referring to a sign/character in the set of "Arabic numerals".  Sanskrit,
Assamese, Bengali, Tibetan, Thai, Javanese, Chinese, Korean, Georgian,
Ethiopian, Hebrew, and Greek (among others) all have different signs.    (06)

-- doug
>...
> --
> Rick    (07)

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