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Re: [ontolog-forum] Set of Semantic Primitives (was Guo's blah blah blah

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From: Christopher Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:07:38 -0500
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On May 30, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Patrick Cassidy wrote:
> Just one point in response to Ian:
>> On May 30, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Ian Bailey wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> . . .
>>> So, I think the idea of one set of primitives to rule them all is
>>> impractical at least, and probably impossible. Based just on the
>>> range of opinion on ontolog alone, you can bloody well forget it.
> The audience for an FO containing all the primitives that are needed  
> for semantic interoperability includes all of the database  
> developers who now are building their own idiosyncratic conceptual  
> models and could just as easily (more easily) use a well-established  
> and well-tested set of primitive conceptual elements to specify the  
> meanings of their domain data elements. This potential audience is  
> vastly larger than the ontolog forum, but needs publicly testable  
> examples of use before they will pay any attention.
> I am suggesting that we actually investigate the issue with a proper  
> test rather than simply assume it is impossible and congratulate  
> each other on our ignorance.    (01)

Pat,    (02)

By my lights people with years of theoretical and practical experience  
in AI and ontological engineering have given *arguments* against the  
feasibility of a single FO.  These arguments might prove unsound, but  
surely they amount to a great deal more than an uncritical, self- 
congratulatory *assumption* that an FO is impossible.    (03)

-chris    (04)

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