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Re: [ontolog-forum] Past, Present, and Future of Ontology

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From: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:33:14 -0700
Message-id: <6CB4DACAC178497084886FFDE18F2011@rhm8200>
Context is a list of propositions.
 
To be more explicit, I think in human terms.
Start with a "tabula rasa" brain -- where the only propositions
are those which correspond to the structure of the human brain,
which recognizes "existent", "entity", "part", "attribute", etc.
Then progressively, fill in the context with all the propositions
which represent the human's sensory experiences of the external
world, and his thinking about those experiences.
 
Syntactically, context is represented in the mKR language as
 
    at space = s, time = t, view = v { sentence; };
 
where s, t, v is the context of the sentence
v is the name of the context, which is implemented as a complex
data structure in the mKE program.
s, t name the space-time coordinates which are applicable when
sentence involves a "physical" situation such as an action or
interaction.
 
Dick McCullough
http://mkrmke.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Bailey
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Past, Present, and Future of Ontology

Hi Dick,

 

At the risk of dragging this thread out, could you please elaborate (in a few sentences) what your understanding of ?Context? is ?

 

I think everyone?s agreed that context is essential, but I think you have to agree with the others that ?context? is a term with very many senses. It covers concepts ranging from simple whole-part predicates, through social construction to illocutionary force and deontic logic (don?t ask me what all those big words mean, I just hear Partridge say them a lot, and like so sound clever myself from time to time). Although you sometimes have to live with woolly, not-completely-analysed concepts in an ontology, I think ?context? is way over in the woolly corner and needs some disambiguation, deconfliction and deconstruction (and probably some other words beginning with ?d?) before it can live in anyone?s ontology.

 

Ta

--

Ian

 

From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard H. McCullough
Sent: 28 May 2009 20:16
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Past, Present, and Future of Ontology

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Christopher Menzel" <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx>
>
>> #### I grant that you are a great scholar, John.
>> #### But can't you put aside your academic bias
>
> Be careful.  "academic bias" is a favorite epithet among cranks the 
> world over, who blame their lack of acceptance within the academic 
> community on prejudice (or envy, or the desire for power, or...) 
> rather than any shortcomings in their work.  I'm supposing you don't 
> want to be considered among their company.
>
>> #### long enough to consider whether I am right or not?
>
> It is *because* John is a scholar with a vast knowledge of the history 
> of AI and KR that it is so obvious to him why your work does not begin 
> to measure up to the standards of the field.  What *you* need to do is 
> set "put aside" the idea that you have single-handedly solved the most 
> vexing problems of AI and KR and follow John's advice: Do your homework.

 

I do not doubt John's knowledge.

The fact is, he never addresses my ideas.

He "cops out" by telling me to do my homework.

        If I do not do my homework,

        then my ideas are wrong.

This is an obvious non sequitur.

This is what I am calling "academic bias".

Dick McCullough
http://mkrmke.org


>
> Chris Menzel
>



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