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Re: [ontolog-forum] standard ontology

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From: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:34:51 -0500
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Pat,    (01)

I never said that:    (02)

PC> You conclusion "if it can't be done by the Cyc group,
 > it can't be done by anyone else" is absurd on its face.    (03)

I always quote the exact words I disagree with.  Please note
my exact words:    (04)

JFS> Bottom line: If it hasn't yet been done with Cyc or OpenCyc,
 > that is very strong evidence for *not* developing FO.    (05)

In your wish list for FO, you stated a long list of desirable
properties that FO would support.  The closest thing to FO that
we have today is Cyc or the excerpt OpenCyc.    (06)

If your wish list is truly desirable, one might expect that
some people might have tried to use Cyc and/or OpenCyc to satisfy
those wishes.  If they haven't yet done so, there are several
possible reasons:    (07)

  1. An upper ontology doesn't help to satisfy those wishes.    (08)

  2. The desired level of interoperability can be achieved by
     other means that do not require an upper ontology.    (09)

  3. People did try to use Cyc, but they failed to achieve results
     that were better than using other, simpler methods.    (010)

I don't know whether these reasons are true, and neither do you.
But if they are true, that would be a very strong argument for
*not* developing FO.    (011)

Another bottom line:  If an approach that is similar to yours hasn't
achieved the results you claim, people aren't going to buy yours.    (012)

John    (013)

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