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Re: [ontolog-forum] FW: Lattice of theories

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From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:22:07 -0500
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Where is the wiki entry to start to define this argument?    (01)

Is this discussion relevant to real users?    (02)

What is the relevance of this to a designer of a real production service?    (03)



Ron    (04)


Len Yabloko wrote:
>> ...
>> Data is nothing but set of references, which can not even be interpreted
>> without some theory that exists entirely outside the database. Such theory
>> can be considered grounded in some realities. But it can not be found in the
>> database. 
>> =============== =============== ================= 
>> What is the "it" that can't be found in the database: 
>> - Reality?  That's fundamental; ontology is only a description of reality.  
>> - Theory?   That's in the schema, which consists not only of storage
>> formats, but also of all META LEVEL information in the database.
>> Constraints, domains, queries, stored procedures, key columns, primary and
>> foreign key designations on tables, and so on.
>>     
>
> It is the theory of course. But database schema as theory is useless for 
>anything besides the application it supports. This why most database 
>applications are not able to talk to each other. 
>
>   
>> The schema is what early AI
>> types once thought of as the "T-box", as someone mentioned earlier.  
>>
>>     
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> I let "early AI types" speak for them-self, but it was I who mentioned 
>"T-box" as possibly related to notion of "data model". The relationship 
>remains to be in question.
>
>   
>> -Rich
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Rich Cooper
>> EnglishLogicKernel.com
>> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
>>
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