Where is the wiki entry to start to define this argument? (01)
Is this discussion relevant to real users? (02)
What is the relevance of this to a designer of a real production service? (03)
Ron (04)
Len Yabloko wrote:
>> ...
>> Data is nothing but set of references, which can not even be interpreted
>> without some theory that exists entirely outside the database. Such theory
>> can be considered grounded in some realities. But it can not be found in the
>> database.
>> =============== =============== =================
>> What is the "it" that can't be found in the database:
>> - Reality? That's fundamental; ontology is only a description of reality.
>> - Theory? That's in the schema, which consists not only of storage
>> formats, but also of all META LEVEL information in the database.
>> Constraints, domains, queries, stored procedures, key columns, primary and
>> foreign key designations on tables, and so on.
>>
>
> It is the theory of course. But database schema as theory is useless for
>anything besides the application it supports. This why most database
>applications are not able to talk to each other.
>
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>> The schema is what early AI
>> types once thought of as the "T-box", as someone mentioned earlier.
>>
>>
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> I let "early AI types" speak for them-self, but it was I who mentioned
>"T-box" as possibly related to notion of "data model". The relationship
>remains to be in question.
>
>
>> -Rich
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Rich Cooper
>> EnglishLogicKernel.com
>> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
>>
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