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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology similarity and accurate communication

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From: "Patrick Cassidy" <pat@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:26:17 -0400
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Matthew,
   Clarification of my too-concise phraseology:
> >   The programs won't but the databases can be.  Cyc and
> > Ontology Works claim
> > to be able to integrate databases with an ontology.
> 
> MW: What does it mean in integrate a data base with an ontology? I
> can think of a number of possibilities.    (01)

Revised:  ". . . able to integrate multiple databases, *using* an
integration ontology.    (02)

> >    But to my knowledge there is no public demonstration of
> > that integration
> > technique on a database of significant size.
> 
> MW: What would constitute a significant size? or what would not?
>
  Thus far I have only seen conceptual demos of one table in each of two
databases, with about 10 columns per table, and that wasn't public.  A
realistic demo would have at least a few dozen columns in each database, and
preferably more than one table in each.  Do you know of such a demo?  Or do
you think it might be worthwhile doing one?    (03)

Pat    (04)

Patrick Cassidy
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> Dear Pat,
> 
> > John,
> >    I agree with your three points, but have some additional comment:
> >
> > [JS] >   2. We do have billions, if not trillions, of dollars
> > of software
> > >      that supports the world's economy, and we see legacy software
> > >      that is 40 years old or older still in daily use -- none of
> > >      which is or will be converted to any "integrating" ontology.
> > >
> >   The programs won't but the databases can be.  Cyc and
> > Ontology Works claim
> > to be able to integrate databases with an ontology.
> 
> MW: What does it mean in integrate a data base with an ontology? I
> can think of a number of possibilities.
> 
> > I am
> > involved in a
> > project exploring the technology to do that.  Each of these
> > methods uses a
> > single upper ontology for the integration process.
> >    But to my knowledge there is no public demonstration of
> > that integration
> > technique on a database of significant size.
> 
> MW: What would constitute a significant size? or what would not?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Matthew West
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