Dear Sean, (01)
I beleive that Peter Mayhew at AMEC made some presentations about later
stages. The benefits continued to build through the project, and I believe
that the solution has been reused and developed for a number of subsequent
projects that AMEC have been involved in. (02)
My involvement finished having pointed them in the right direction. (03)
Regards (04)
Matthew West
Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager
Shell International Petroleum Company Limited
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http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/ (06)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:Sean.Barker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19 March 2008 17:13
> To: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFC/D21
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> Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] Ontology similarity and accurate
> communication
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>
> Matthew,
> is there any write-up on the subsequent phases and usage of the
> project?
>
> Sean Barker
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> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology similarity and accurate
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> > Dear Pat,
> >
> > > Matthew,
> > > Clarification of my too-concise phraseology:
> > > > > The programs won't but the databases can be. Cyc and
> > Ontology
> > > > > Works claim to be able to integrate databases with an
> ontology.
> > > >
> > > > MW: What does it mean in integrate a data base with an
> > ontology? I
> > > > can think of a number of possibilities.
> > >
> > > Revised: ". . . able to integrate multiple databases, *using* an
> > > integration ontology.
> >
> > MW: OK. That is what ISO 15926 is about.
> > >
> > > > > But to my knowledge there is no public
> demonstration of that
> > > > > integration technique on a database of significant size.
> > > >
> > > > MW: What would constitute a significant size? or what would not?
> > > >
> > > Thus far I have only seen conceptual demos of one table
> > in each of
> > > two databases, with about 10 columns per table, and that wasn't
> > > public. A realistic demo would have at least a few dozen
> > columns in
> > > each database, and preferably more than one table in
> each. Do you
> > > know of such a demo? Or do you think it might be
> worthwhile doing
> > > one?
> >
> > This sort of thing goes on fairly regularly in industry, an
> > example I was involved in about a decade ago is written up here:
> > http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/Documents/STEPintoTheRealWorld.PDF
> >
> > Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matthew West
> > Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager Shell
> > International Petroleum Company Limited Registered in England
> > and Wales Registered number: 621148 Registered office: Shell
> > Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
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> >
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > Patrick Cassidy
> > > MICRA, Inc.
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> > >
> > >
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> > > > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology similarity and accurate
> > > > communication
> > > >
> > > > Dear Pat,
> > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > > I agree with your three points, but have some
> > > additional comment:
> > > > >
> > > > > [JS] > 2. We do have billions, if not trillions, of dollars
> > > > > of software
> > > > > > that supports the world's economy, and we see
> > > legacy software
> > > > > > that is 40 years old or older still in daily use
> > -- none of
> > > > > > which is or will be converted to any "integrating"
> > > ontology.
> > > > > >
> > > > > The programs won't but the databases can be. Cyc and
> > Ontology
> > > > > Works claim to be able to integrate databases with an
> ontology.
> > > >
> > > > MW: What does it mean in integrate a data base with an
> > ontology? I
> > > > can think of a number of possibilities.
> > > >
> > > > > I am
> > > > > involved in a
> > > > > project exploring the technology to do that. Each of these
> > > > > methods uses a single upper ontology for the
> > integration process.
> > > > > But to my knowledge there is no public
> demonstration of that
> > > > > integration technique on a database of significant size.
> > > >
> > > > MW: What would constitute a significant size? or what would not?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Matthew West
> > > > Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager Shell
> > > > International Petroleum Company Limited Registered in
> England and
> > > > Wales Registered number: 621148 Registered office:
> Shell Centre,
> > > > London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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