Azamat, (01)
Thank you for the suggestion. Believe I did ask Dennis previously
whether his software/technology is open or proprietary. I don't
believe he responded in the affirmative. (02)
Let me ask again, politely, (03)
Dennis, is the system/technology you are discussing ("Mark 3") a "free
software" or "open sourced" ('free' or 'open' as defined in our IPR
policy* - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32)
? (04)
Regards. =ppy (05)
P.S. Azamat, to make sure we don't misunderstand each other, may I
politely request that you review how the "free software", "open
source" and "open content" licenses are defined in our IPR Policy.
Thanks. =ppy
-- (06)
On 9/17/07, Azamat <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter,
> If politely asked they might open their knowledge technology secrets, thus
> enriching our discussion. As i remember, I had some communication with
> Richard B. and found him as an open-minded person, committed to advancing
> the cause of knowledge systems.
> Azamat (07)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:19 PM
> Subject: [ontolog-forum] Appropriate to discuss [was - Re: ontospam]
>
>
> > Azamat,
> >
> >> [AA] Dennis Thomas must be a good researcher, maybe, with
> >> some funny ideas about semantics, ontology, and knowledge.
> >
> > [ppy] maybe, but that is irrelevant ... as long as he has opted to
> > keep his technology and work proprietary (and not openly sharing it in
> > accordance with our 'open' IPR Policy), it makes it inappropriate
> > material for discussion in this 'open forum' (except during 'specially
> > arranged' events/settings.)
> >
> > Regards. =ppy
> >
> > Peter Yim
> > Co-convener, Ontolog
> > --
> >
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Azamat <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems the forum needs not only more professional focusing on ontology
> >> but
> >> some patience to others positions, worldviews, and projects.
> >>
> >> Dennis Thomas must be a good researcher, maybe, with some funny ideas
> >> about
> >> semantics, ontology, and knowledge. And he looks to be frank promoting
> >> his
> >> project as much as it is persistently done with CL, IKL, etc.
> >> As a private investigator, he might say more interesting ideas than the
> >> cold
> >> and stale things one used to hear from the academic investigators.
> >> It should be observed that most radical breakthroughs the science and
> >> technology expect from private researchers, like William Dobelle, who was
> >> the first neuroscientist, inventing an operative brain implant, a
> >> brain-computer interface, to restore sight, acquired blindness.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Dobelle
> >> The same rule applies to fundamental ontology and its critical
> >> technological
> >> application, semantic web.
> >>
> >> Azamat Abdoullaev
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:22 PM
> >> Subject: [ontolog-forum] ontospam (was: Re: Current Semantic Web Layer
> >> pizza
> >> (was ckae))
> >>
> >>
> >> > Folks,
> >> >
> >> > Allow me to suggest that we refrain from responding to such obviously
> >> > nonsensical and vacuous expressions of institutionalized ignorance as
> >> > the recent postings on this thread. My response, after some cursory
> >> > checking to verify that the claims are indeed as nonsensical as they
> >> > sound (in this case, for example, the fact that the world of Thomas,
> >> > Ballard and KFI is entirely self-referring and self-contained, with
> >> > no connection to any scholarly or published work for the last 20
> >> > years; and that if its claims were even partly correct, it would by
> >> > now have put Oracle out of business) is to simply create an email
> >> > filter to auto-trash such stuff. Arguing with these people is like
> >> > arguing with creationists about evolution.
> >> >
> >> > Let me propose that we adopt the term "ontospam" for this kind of
> >> > input, in order that we can all save one anothers' time by using it
> >> > to categorize such inputs quickly and precisely. It is pretty easy to
> >> > recognize, see for example
> >> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DennisThomas.
> >> >
> >> > Pat Hayes
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