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Re: [ontolog-forum] Appropriate to discuss [was - Re: ontospam]

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From: "Azamat" <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:14:41 +0300
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Peter,
If politely asked they might open their knowledge technology secrets, thus 
enriching our discussion. As i remember, I had some communication with 
Richard B. and found him as an open-minded person, committed to advancing 
the cause of knowledge systems.
Azamat    (01)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [ontolog-forum] Appropriate to discuss [was - Re: ontospam]    (02)


> Azamat,
>
>> [AA]  Dennis Thomas must be a good researcher, maybe, with
>> some funny ideas about semantics, ontology, and knowledge.
>
> [ppy]  maybe, but that is irrelevant ... as long as he has opted to
> keep his technology and work proprietary (and not openly sharing it in
> accordance with our 'open' IPR Policy), it makes it inappropriate
> material for discussion in this 'open forum' (except during 'specially
> arranged' events/settings.)
>
> Regards.  =ppy
>
> Peter Yim
> Co-convener, Ontolog
> --
>
>
> On 9/17/07, Azamat <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> It seems the forum needs not only more professional focusing on ontology 
>> but
>> some patience to others positions, worldviews, and projects.
>>
>> Dennis Thomas must be a good researcher, maybe, with some funny ideas 
>> about
>> semantics, ontology, and knowledge. And he looks to be frank promoting 
>> his
>> project as much as it is persistently done with CL, IKL, etc.
>> As a private investigator, he might say more interesting ideas than the 
>> cold
>> and stale things one used to hear from the academic investigators.
>> It should be observed that most radical breakthroughs the science and
>> technology expect from private researchers, like William Dobelle, who was
>> the first neuroscientist, inventing an operative brain implant, a
>> brain-computer interface, to restore sight, acquired blindness.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Dobelle
>> The same rule applies to fundamental ontology and its critical 
>> technological
>> application, semantic web.
>>
>> Azamat Abdoullaev
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:22 PM
>> Subject: [ontolog-forum] ontospam (was: Re: Current Semantic Web Layer 
>> pizza
>> (was ckae))
>>
>>
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > Allow me to suggest that we refrain from responding to such obviously
>> > nonsensical and vacuous expressions of institutionalized ignorance as
>> > the recent postings on this thread. My response, after some cursory
>> > checking to verify that the claims are indeed as nonsensical as they
>> > sound (in this case, for example, the fact that the world of Thomas,
>> > Ballard and KFI is entirely self-referring and self-contained, with
>> > no connection to any scholarly or published work for the last 20
>> > years; and that if its claims were even partly correct, it would by
>> > now have put Oracle out of business) is to simply create an email
>> > filter to auto-trash such stuff. Arguing with these people is like
>> > arguing with creationists about evolution.
>> >
>> > Let me propose that we adopt the term "ontospam" for this kind of
>> > input, in order that we can all save one anothers' time by using it
>> > to categorize such inputs quickly and precisely. It is pretty easy to
>> > recognize, see for example
>> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DennisThomas.
>> >
>> > Pat Hayes
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