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Re: [ontolog-forum] Mapping Ontolog Events [keywords} {tags]

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From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:22:29 -0700
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That's something started by Michael Maximilien back in Jan. 2006 (ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidJMZ) and still
actively updated. That files contains some metadata (including
keywords) to every major/recorded event this community has put
together in its more recent history.    (01)

I am not suggesting you do anything ... but just wanted to draw your
attention to its existence, in case you weren't aware. We hope members
can build on each other's work (and not reinvent the wheel here.)    (02)


Regards.  =ppy
--    (03)


On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter
> when I click on that link, I get to a post, where I can click onto an xml feed
> which gives me a feed link, which contains a lot of nice posts from the wiki
> (which I cannot read all) - ah but maybe you want me to use the link
> as a feed for my site?
>
> the list of keywords that I am thinking of at this stage is just a set
> of terms to use as
> 'tags', not sure how your good feed would supply that?
> or am I missin something?
>
> cheers
> P    (04)


> On 9/6/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Paola,
> >
> > Good going!
> >
> > ... btw, I didn't see your response to my earlier questions - see:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00049.html#nid03
> >
> > Is your keyword set in any way related to those already in the xml file?
> >
> > Please advise. =ppy
> > --
> >
> >
> > On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Deborah
> > >
> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FrameworkKeywords
> > >
> > > I have started off some keywords, apologies for poor wiki editing
> > > (need some help there, I use wysiwyg wikis...)
> > >
> > > ,>>>can views also  be shown Ex:
> > >
> > > I suggest that we find a set of keywords to describe to each view
> > > and that the authors of the documents help us by selecting an initial
> > > set of keywords
> > >
> > > for example, the term views is in the initial set of keywords from the 
>framework
> > > my idead is that under views, we have
> > >
> > > views
> > > --------- keywords for view a
> > > ----------keyword for view b
> > > etc
> > >
> > > when the keywords intersevct, we have a multidimensional map taking
> > > shape, at lest we hope
> > > this can be represented by a multifacet categorization (words) as well
> > > as by some kind of visual support (topic map)
> > >
> > > just ideas! feel free to evolve...
> > >
> > > GET KEYWORDS FOR THESE?
> > > > - Representation of Ontological Assessments - Denise Bedford (10HO)
> > > > - Ontology Spectrum Gruninger, Lehmann, McGuinnness, Uschold, Welty
> > > > - Ontology Dimensions Map (10OD) Breakout Group-Z / 2007.04.23 (10RX)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Also, can threads with full discussions back up the keywords to explain
> > > > where the words are coming from, whether they are widely accepted or a 
>point
> > > > of contention?
> > > Well, the reason why the framework is a good starting point is because
> > > we have all
> > > to some extend 'accepted it' -
> > >
> > > Other suggestions: shall we suggest that everyone please add tag to
> > > your stoffe (post or anything used on the wiki) using any word from
> > > the framework keyword set, after we clean it up?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > PDM
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter, Deborah
> > > > >
> > > > > while I was writing the email I was also thinking 'should i volunteer
> > > > > ' but then deleted the thought and went on with my chores - thanks for
> > > > > the encouragement
> > > > >
> > > > > It makes sense to develop a single set of keywords,  events should use
> > > > > the same tag set as all other resources, so I suggest project Keywords
> > > > > is started, draft here
> > > > >
> > > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProjectKeywords
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll start extracting and list the keywords from the framework, and we
> > > > > can take it from there?
> > > > >
> > > > > everyone welcome to edit/add/change including those who have already
> > > > > started similar efforts
> > > > >
> > > > > - Some suggestions for discussion below
> > > > > - shall we continue this thread on the ontologizing mailing list? (cc)
> > > > >
> > > > > (a) a project title
> > > > > Project Keywords (towards a thesaurus)
> > > > >
> > > > > (b) goals:
> > > > > To make a list of tags to associate with our resources
> > > > > Such list should be structured and should reflect where possible the
> > > > framework
> > > > > Such list should also serve as possible launch pad for new ideas to be
> > > > > incorporated in the framework at a later date (keywords not in the
> > > > > framework can be used )
> > > > > The purpose of the list of tags is to start forming a semantic
> > > > > structure against which we can map existing and forthcoming resources
> > > > > Quality of the list: The terms used should be unambiguos and well 
>defined
> > > > > We can use synonyms where more than one choice of term is possible
> > > > > The keywords produced on this list can be used/merged with other 
>related
> > > > efforts
> > > > > This project shall end when we have enough keywords to map our
> > > > > resources against our domain (likely to remain ongoin)
> > > > >
> > > > > Deliverables
> > > > > ---------------------
> > > > > a set of keyterms mapped around the framework
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggested Process:
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > Phase one
> > > > > ------------------
> > > > > 1) make an initial list of keywords that define the framework (extract
> > > > > these from the framework statment and diagrams  (paola volunteers to
> > > > > do this first step)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) ask the author of each document on the wiki to extract the keywords
> > > > > from their document/presentation/slides onto the keywords of the
> > > > > framework
> > > > >
> > > > > Phase two
> > > > > --------------------
> > > > > set up discussion as required
> > > > > Merge/evolve the set of keywords using other sets of keywords produced
> > > > > by related efforts
> > > > >
> > > > > Phase three
> > > > > --------------------
> > > > > Produce a working document (deliverable)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (c) Launch date - Today! .
> > > > > I do not forsee the need for a 'meeting as such',  but should anyone
> > > > > have anything to discuss or questions that cannot be handled by email
> > > > > they can call a meeting anytime.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am available on skype /blogconthai/ anytime (well before 10 Pm BKK
> > > > > time is good for me,) and on gmail -  I am also happy to work asynch
> > > > > I have opened a chat room on skype for voice and text
> > > > >
> > > > 
>http://ui.skype.com/ui/0/3.2.0.148/en/publicchats-join?skypename=blogconthai&topic=Ontology%20Keywords&blob=CFbslW-yDnKHbko2iKrF5kPFyPi0jyRMgut6Z1x0su_7_2GlBR06wbRBLjsQqd-uOYoHGtI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1], Ken Baclawsaki > is championing a similar exercise for artifacts
> > > > > collected from the
> > > > > > OntologySummit2007_Survey
> > > > > ken - can you share your tags so far?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [2] >  ... some coordination between this potential task team and his,
> > > > and,
> > > > > > as previously mentioned, to the OntologTaxoThesaurus project work
> > > > > please Ontotaxo group point to the latest list of tems extracted, at
> > > > > least we can start looking at it?  Shall we continue this thread on
> > > > > the ontologizing list to keep the coordination going?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > PDM
> > > > >
> > > > >
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