Paola, .... Let me take this offline with you. =ppy
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On 9/7/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter
> thanks
>
> That files contains some metadata (including
> > keywords) to every major/recorded event this community has put
> > together in its more recent history.
>
> My browser forces me to open that file using a reader - so I cannot
> see the source xml
> from here, I just get the feeds - how can I find the keywords. do you
> have the schema
> on a notepad?
> >
> > I am not suggesting you do anything ... but just wanted to draw your
> > attention to its existence, in case you weren't aware. We hope members
> > can build on each other's work (and not reinvent the wheel here.)
> >
> I am happy to build on that - but how? how can I 'edit' and 'add ' new
> keywords,
> and use the keywords in every possible way that I need to?
>
> If a simple set of keywords ''exists' in a simple form, anyone will be
> able to create
> a filter based on the agreed keywords, as well as to customize them
>
> If there is a set of keywords generated from the framework session, or
> for any other
> work from this group, I need it. If there isn't we need to start building one
>
> p
>
>
>
>
> > Regards. =ppy
> > --
> >
> >
> > On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi Peter
> > > when I click on that link, I get to a post, where I can click onto an xml
>feed
> > > which gives me a feed link, which contains a lot of nice posts from the
>wiki
> > > (which I cannot read all) - ah but maybe you want me to use the link
> > > as a feed for my site?
> > >
> > > the list of keywords that I am thinking of at this stage is just a set
> > > of terms to use as
> > > 'tags', not sure how your good feed would supply that?
> > > or am I missin something?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > P
> >
> >
> > > On 9/6/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Paola,
> > > >
> > > > Good going!
> > > >
> > > > ... btw, I didn't see your response to my earlier questions - see:
> > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00049.html#nid03
> > > >
> > > > Is your keyword set in any way related to those already in the xml file?
> > > >
> > > > Please advise. =ppy
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Deborah
> > > > >
> > > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FrameworkKeywords
> > > > >
> > > > > I have started off some keywords, apologies for poor wiki editing
> > > > > (need some help there, I use wysiwyg wikis...)
> > > > >
> > > > > ,>>>can views also be shown Ex:
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest that we find a set of keywords to describe to each view
> > > > > and that the authors of the documents help us by selecting an initial
> > > > > set of keywords
> > > > >
> > > > > for example, the term views is in the initial set of keywords from
>the framework
> > > > > my idead is that under views, we have
> > > > >
> > > > > views
> > > > > --------- keywords for view a
> > > > > ----------keyword for view b
> > > > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > when the keywords intersevct, we have a multidimensional map taking
> > > > > shape, at lest we hope
> > > > > this can be represented by a multifacet categorization (words) as well
> > > > > as by some kind of visual support (topic map)
> > > > >
> > > > > just ideas! feel free to evolve...
> > > > >
> > > > > GET KEYWORDS FOR THESE?
> > > > > > - Representation of Ontological Assessments - Denise Bedford (10HO)
> > > > > > - Ontology Spectrum Gruninger, Lehmann, McGuinnness, Uschold, Welty
> > > > > > - Ontology Dimensions Map (10OD) Breakout Group-Z / 2007.04.23
>(10RX)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Also, can threads with full discussions back up the keywords to
>explain
> > > > > > where the words are coming from, whether they are widely accepted
>or a point
> > > > > > of contention?
> > > > > Well, the reason why the framework is a good starting point is because
> > > > > we have all
> > > > > to some extend 'accepted it' -
> > > > >
> > > > > Other suggestions: shall we suggest that everyone please add tag to
> > > > > your stoffe (post or anything used on the wiki) using any word from
> > > > > the framework keyword set, after we clean it up?
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > PDM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter, Deborah
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > while I was writing the email I was also thinking 'should i
>volunteer
> > > > > > > ' but then deleted the thought and went on with my chores -
>thanks for
> > > > > > > the encouragement
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It makes sense to develop a single set of keywords, events
>should use
> > > > > > > the same tag set as all other resources, so I suggest project
>Keywords
> > > > > > > is started, draft here
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProjectKeywords
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll start extracting and list the keywords from the framework,
>and we
> > > > > > > can take it from there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > everyone welcome to edit/add/change including those who have
>already
> > > > > > > started similar efforts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Some suggestions for discussion below
> > > > > > > - shall we continue this thread on the ontologizing mailing list?
>(cc)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (a) a project title
> > > > > > > Project Keywords (towards a thesaurus)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (b) goals:
> > > > > > > To make a list of tags to associate with our resources
> > > > > > > Such list should be structured and should reflect where possible
>the
> > > > > > framework
> > > > > > > Such list should also serve as possible launch pad for new ideas
>to be
> > > > > > > incorporated in the framework at a later date (keywords not in the
> > > > > > > framework can be used )
> > > > > > > The purpose of the list of tags is to start forming a semantic
> > > > > > > structure against which we can map existing and forthcoming
>resources
> > > > > > > Quality of the list: The terms used should be unambiguos and well
>defined
> > > > > > > We can use synonyms where more than one choice of term is possible
> > > > > > > The keywords produced on this list can be used/merged with other
>related
> > > > > > efforts
> > > > > > > This project shall end when we have enough keywords to map our
> > > > > > > resources against our domain (likely to remain ongoin)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Deliverables
> > > > > > > ---------------------
> > > > > > > a set of keyterms mapped around the framework
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Suggested Process:
> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > > Phase one
> > > > > > > ------------------
> > > > > > > 1) make an initial list of keywords that define the framework
>(extract
> > > > > > > these from the framework statment and diagrams (paola volunteers
>to
> > > > > > > do this first step)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) ask the author of each document on the wiki to extract the
>keywords
> > > > > > > from their document/presentation/slides onto the keywords of the
> > > > > > > framework
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phase two
> > > > > > > --------------------
> > > > > > > set up discussion as required
> > > > > > > Merge/evolve the set of keywords using other sets of keywords
>produced
> > > > > > > by related efforts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phase three
> > > > > > > --------------------
> > > > > > > Produce a working document (deliverable)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (c) Launch date - Today! .
> > > > > > > I do not forsee the need for a 'meeting as such', but should
>anyone
> > > > > > > have anything to discuss or questions that cannot be handled by
>email
> > > > > > > they can call a meeting anytime.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am available on skype /blogconthai/ anytime (well before 10 Pm
>BKK
> > > > > > > time is good for me,) and on gmail - I am also happy to work
>asynch
> > > > > > > I have opened a chat room on skype for voice and text
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
>http://ui.skype.com/ui/0/3.2.0.148/en/publicchats-join?skypename=blogconthai&topic=Ontology%20Keywords&blob=CFbslW-yDnKHbko2iKrF5kPFyPi0jyRMgut6Z1x0su_7_2GlBR06wbRBLjsQqd-uOYoHGtI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1], Ken Baclawsaki > is championing a similar exercise for
>artifacts
> > > > > > > collected from the
> > > > > > > > OntologySummit2007_Survey
> > > > > > > ken - can you share your tags so far?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [2] > ... some coordination between this potential task team and
>his,
> > > > > > and,
> > > > > > > > as previously mentioned, to the OntologTaxoThesaurus project
>work
> > > > > > > please Ontotaxo group point to the latest list of tems extracted,
>at
> > > > > > > least we can start looking at it? Shall we continue this thread
>on
> > > > > > > the ontologizing list to keep the coordination going?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PDM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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