On Jul 14, 2007, at 12:02 PM, richard murphy wrote: (01)
>
>> Many thanks for your comments John. You'll be pleased to know, a few
>> weeks ago in a W3C workshop when Tim BL positioned RDF/OWL as THE
>> WAY, I
>> gave him more than an earful. He was very gracious about it. When we
>> talked later, he was a bit defensive, but I recognized his sincere
>> interest in the discussion.
>
> To be fair to TIm, he is thinking of RDF/OWL as the way to get the
> semantic web up and running, and his ambition for the SWeb are both
> more and less than Pierce's vision. Less ontologically universal,
> and more globally (in the geographical sense) and socially
> ambitious. To get something actually used for practical purposes by
> a reasonable percentage of the literate population of the planet
> requires that that the overall framework be kept as simple as
> possible, and that a lot of low-level nitty details be simply
> decided one way or the other. Getting the optimal or even the best
> choice is often less important (and considerably less practical)
> than getting a large group of people to simply agree on ONE choice.
> All that deciding has now happened, and we have RDF and OWL and
> XML. If you don't like them, don't come into the kitchen. It is
> counterproductive to assume that these decisions are still open to
> interminable debate. The way to get the SWeb started is to use them
> as hard as one can, noting the places where they are completely
> unworkable for future work, and in the meantime making something
> that does something useful using the tools we have.
>
> I agree that OWL is nowhere nearly expressive enough to handle such
> depths as this in full detail. It wasn't meant to be able to do
> that. IF you want a much more expressive notation, try CLIF or IKL;
> but you will have to get used to a different style of ontology
> composition.
>
> Pat
> (02)
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