Well
I cant think of a better way of giving feedback on a standard than trying it out
I was thinking some kind of user test
of course in addition on any other input that people may have off the top of their heads
PDM
On 4/28/07, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can't speak for the TC, but getting this far was a big hurdle, so I
don't want to make it seem like the TC is ready for further steps,
even if I personally happen to be in favor of such testing.
Cheers,
Rex
At 10:42 AM -0700 4/27/07, Peter Yim wrote:
>Just to clarify ...
>
>> [PDM] .... we have established that a schema IS NOT an ontology, ...
>
>[ppy] who are "we" ... and when was this established?
>
>If you are referring to OntologySummit2007, then I afraid the
>statement is misconstrued ... I think it was repeated many times
>during the summit proceedings that "we were not there to identify what
>"is" or "is not" an ontology, or even to define "what is an ontology"
>.... we were only there to see how we could better understand
>"ontology" and "ontology-related"/"ontology-like" artifacts.
>
>Regards. =ppy
>--
>
>
>On 4/27/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Rex and all
>>
>> thanks for pointers
>>
>> I have circulated the edxl review period link to peers before, I think it
>> might be useful to test it againt specific use cases
>>
>> Indeed this is important
>>
>> I wonder if we could use this opportunity as a testbed for the proposed
>> framework
>>
>> Should we create a conceptual link between the edxl schema to a bigger
>> picture for EM.
>>
>> I mean, we have established that a schema IS NOT an ontology, and that an
>> ontolopgy HAS schemas, right?
>>
>> would this be a useful exercise to plot this schema into a bigger, yet to
>> become, em picture made of entities and relationships and peoples and things
>> would this help people understand why edxl is important?
>> (I am still thinking of joining the EMTC btw, long 'to do' list)
>>
>> PDM
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/07, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for posting this to the Ontolog Forum, Paola,
>> >
>> >
>> > Since I work with Renato regularly in the OASIS Emergency Management
>> Technical Committee (EM TC), if he attends this conference, he can certainly
>> pass along the views of our TC and the SC I co chair where we toil away on
>> EDXL-RM and are awaiting the set of specification requirements from our
>> experts group.
>> >
>> >
>> > This brings up the first topic I would like to see passed along at this
>> conference. EDXL-RM (Resource Messaging is in its 60-day Public Review
>> period. It will still be in the active review period during the conference.
>> The URL for the announcement made to the Ontolog Forum is
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-04/msg00006.html
>> >
>> >
>> > The announcement includes URLs for the document in several formats and the
>> pubic comment form. The URLs include the zipped package XSD files and it is
>> especially important to note that all of the imported-cited specifications
>> and examples are included for the convenience of implementers and reviewers.
>> >
>> >
>> > Last note that Renato can pass along is the fact that the EM TC is
>> undertaking the development of the Emergency Data Exchange Language
>> Reference Information Model (EDXL-RIM) which will include an RDF Schema and
>> an OWL-DL specification in addition to the now-conventional XML Schema, so
>> we are actually moving to the next level for structured information
>> standards in providing an ontology for the abstract reference information
> > model that unifies existing EDXL specifications and can be used for writing
>> the upcoming additions to the EDXL family.
>> >
>> >
>> > That does not mean that it is not an uphill struggle. TCs are notoriously
>> literal-minded and stay close to the concrete, but getting agreement to make
>> this first step is a milestone in my opinion, and we have been working
>> towards this for quite a while now.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rex
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 4:59 PM +0700 4/27/07,
paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > Dear all
>> > [apologies for cross posting]
>> >
>> > Following the ongoing discussion in this community, and latest thread on
>> w3 list, I have been considering how best to bring the
> > > emergency management ontology to the industry discussion table, (other
>> than starting a war)
>> >
>> > Although I have not yet succeeded to have the topic included in the
>> conference agenda , peers attending ISCRAM in Delft Holland 13-16 next
>> month also consider the discussion important, so I am touching base with a
>> couple of people with the idea of setting up a BOF with the aim to get to
>> know each other and exchange ideas
>> >
>> > I am personally not likely to be in the conference (considering my topic
>> of interest has not been included) but I'll try to hang around a couple of
>> days in the neighborhood so that we can get the discussion going, and
>> hopefully have it included in the future official editions of the
>> conference.
>> >
>> > I take this chance to invite anyone on this list or colleague, especially
>> those likely to be physically in the region who may want to come out for an
>> emergency drink, to flag their interest, so that we can keep you posted of
>> our whereabouts
>> >
>> > Feel free to forward Renato's email below, sent to w3 list
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Paola Di Maio
>> >
>> > FORWARDED
>> > Hi all - a few of us attending the ISCRAM Conference have proposed a
>> > BOF on "Ontologies for Emergency Management"
>> > which is receiving lots of interest from the community and standards
>> > groups.
>> >
>> > See <
http://esw.w3.org/topic/DisasterManagement > as an
>> example.
>> >
>> > If you are interested, the please email me directly and we will
>> > arrange for appropriate logistics at Delft.
>> >
>> > Cheers...
>> > Dr Renato Iannella
>> > Principal Scientist
>> > NICTA, Level 19, 300 Adelaide St, Brisbane, QLD, 4000 AUSTRALIA
>> > [t] +61 7 3000 0484 [f] +61 7 3000 0480 [m] +61 4 1313 2206
>> > [e] renato@xxxxxxxxxxxx [w] http://nicta.com.au [i] aim:renatoi2003
>> > [v] skype:riannella
>> >
>> >
>> >
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