Hi Paola - what do you mean by SIG? Debbie (01)
On 3/17/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Emotional and mental states have a high degree of subjectivity,
> fluctuate a lot, and are not 'stable' also they are directly
> determined by 'perception', as well as by other variables like
> enviromental, neural, phsychological and other factors
>
> Perception in turn is influenced by the senses, and the senses are
> influenced (also)
> by lifestyle (eating habits, memories, associations, genetics for example)
>
> I think to be able to model subjectivity is very challenging, even
> more challenging
> is going to integrate that into a stable system
>
> These days (everything is possible) we have 'personalisation' that
> models that view, to some extent.I can set my /mood/ and let the semantic web
> pitch my mood with whatever is on offer for the day.
>
> Let's start a SIG
>
> Pdm
>
>
>
>
> On 3/18/07, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Pat and Kathy,
> >
> > I used the term "harder than", not "impossible",
> > and I certainly recognize the importance of
> > research in these areas.
> >
> > JFS>> ...what about stuff like happiness?
> > >> "Happiness" seems to be a mass noun like "water",
> > >> but it's even harder to measure or refer to.
> >
> > PH> Its hard to measure, but that doesn't make it
> > > hard to *refer to*. What it might make hard is to
> > > describe it quantitatively, but we now have a lot
> > > of experience in how to use purely qualitative
> > > descriptions to draw quite sophisticated
> > > conclusions, cf. "qualitative physics".
> >
> > KBL> Social scientists have developed both quantitative
> > > and qualitative measures of mental/emotional states
> > > and/or dispositions -- such as happiness, anger,
> > > aggressiveness, etc.
> > >
> > > Decision theory has very well developed quantitative
> > > methods for measuring preferences.
> >
> > All that work constitutes a very important body of ongoing
> > research. But that merely confirms my claims:
> >
> > 1. The existential and universal quantifiers, which Frege
> > defined in 1879 and Peirce independently defined in
> > 1880, have not changed in the past 128 years. The fact
> > that they started from very different approaches, but
> > converged on logically equivalent definitions is very
> > significant. Even more significant is that the newer
> > versions of "generalized quantifiers" have assumed
> > those two basic quantifiers as settled.
> >
> > 2. But there have been many different research studies
> > for representing continuous stuff during that same
> > period of time, and new research publications for
> > different variations are still continuing.
> >
> > 3. There are many more differences in approaches, studies,
> > theories, and strategies for handling mental and emotional
> > states over that same period. A lot of it is very good,
> > but there is much less consensus about how to proceed
> > than in #2.
> >
> > I believe it's extremely important to include mental and
> > emotional states in our ontologies, but there's a lot more
> > variety in the foundations and what is built on top.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
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